RAW vs Jpeg (All in one thread)

12 years 6 months ago #153039 by Scotty
Thing is with anarchy, it's short lived and never works.

When the last candle has been blown out
and the last glass of champagne has been drunk
All that you are left with are the memories and the images-David Cooke.

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12 years 6 months ago - 12 years 6 months ago #153391 by Henry Peach

KCook wrote: Also, many advanced editing tools work only with 8-bit channel depth. So at that point you've stepped away from RAW anyways.


The tools in Adobe Camera Raw, where I do 99.9% of my processing, all work in 16 bit. And then almost all of the tools I use on the rare occasion I need to go to CS4 also work in 16 bit. A lot of filters only work in 8 bit, but I never use those filters. Besides increased bit depth is only one of many potential advantages to raw. Using 8 bit doesn't eliminate the other advantages. In my own experience the only time I notice an image quality difference between 8 and 16 bit is when I'm trying to lighten shadows more than I normally like to be lightening them anyway.
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12 years 6 months ago #153445 by KCook
The ACR that came with my Elements must be abbreviated. When I need brushes, distortion correction, Magic Lasso, Replace Color, etc, mostly for retouching purposes, my ACR lacks that. And at that point Elements is in the 8-bit world.

Kelly

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12 years 6 months ago #153458 by Stealthy Ninja

Scotty wrote: Organization is fundamental to the growth and strength of a forum.


Yep, which is why I just added another thread to this one.

Let's use the freakin' search people. :)

I really do love you all, but the freakin' RAW vs Jpeg this has been done to death.

I will continue to combine the threads if anyone adds another. Just FYI.

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12 years 6 months ago #153538 by effron
So, which is better, raw or jpeg?

Why so serious?
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12 years 6 months ago #153681 by bcap fish

VT Hiker wrote:

MYoung wrote: what does a RAW photo do for me?

Fulfill your wildest photography dreams. It's more magical than fairy dust. :lol:


:rofl: Only to photographers.


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12 years 6 months ago #153835 by robinchun

effron wrote: So, which is better, raw or jpeg?


Is anyone gonna answer this??

Robin
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12 years 6 months ago - 12 years 6 months ago #153881 by Scotty

robinchun wrote:

effron wrote: So, which is better, raw or jpeg?


Is anyone gonna answer this??

Robin


Check the first page of this thread. It was answered in the first few replies.

When the last candle has been blown out
and the last glass of champagne has been drunk
All that you are left with are the memories and the images-David Cooke.

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12 years 6 months ago #153885 by Stealthy Ninja

Scotty wrote:

robinchun wrote:

effron wrote: So, which is better, raw or jpeg?


Is anyone gonna answer this??

Robin


Check the first page of this thread. It was answered in the first few replies.


Yes that would be a great place to start. ;) :rolleyes
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12 years 6 months ago #154451 by jeffery


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12 years 6 months ago #155994 by Henry Peach

robinchun wrote:

effron wrote: So, which is better, raw or jpeg?


Is anyone gonna answer this??


Which is better: an exposed but undeveloped frame of film, or a developed frame of film? Both are steps in the process of creating a photograph. If you don't know how to develop film, don't have the appropriate tools to develop it, or need to start printing photos right away the undeveloped film may be problematic. If the developed film was developed wrong that could also be trouble.

Your digital camera starts with raw data, and at some point it is processed into an image file such as a jpeg. Setting the camera to jpeg means you are doing some or all of the processing with the in-camera software. Setting the camera to raw means you are doing the processing with your choice of out-of-camera software. Which is better depends on the photographer and the situation.
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12 years 6 months ago #155996 by Henry Peach

KCook wrote: The ACR that came with my Elements must be abbreviated. When I need brushes, distortion correction, Magic Lasso, Replace Color, etc, mostly for retouching purposes, my ACR lacks that. And at that point Elements is in the 8-bit world.


I am not familiar with Elements at all. Possibly it uses a very old version or limited version of ACR? The versions of ACR that correspond to CS4 or LR2 have some tools such as adjustment brushes built in, and the tools you mention all work in 16 bit in CS.
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12 years 6 months ago #156123 by KCook
Good to know. CS4, LR, and PS are beyond my budget, so I haven't had a chance to try them.

Kelly

Canon 50D, Olympus PL2
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12 years 5 months ago #160125 by 846Studios
Easy analogy. Think of uncooked food as raw with no seasoning added. Think of cooked food as jpeg that's been spiced and cooked.

"It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see."
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12 years 5 months ago #161759 by Henry Peach

846Studios wrote: Easy analogy. Think of uncooked food as raw with no seasoning added. Think of cooked food as jpeg that's been spiced and cooked.


The raw file is the pantry full of the cooking ingredients, because after I've cooked something up, and it doesn't turn out right, I can go back to the pantry and start over if I want.
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