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Cropping - Best Workflow Between LR and PS


9 years 2 months ago #426888 by drfarro
I tend to work by doing most photo editing in LR and then some fine tuning sometimes in PS.  The issue I have run across is that once I have cropped a photo in LR, then edited it in PS, the photo can no longer be uncropped with either program.  Is this correct?  Other than cropping at the very end of my workflow, is there any other way to handle this?  

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9 years 2 months ago #426993 by garyrhook
When you move from LR to PS, LR renders the image, crop included, and hands the results to PS. When done, PS hands that back to LR, so all of your edits have been applied. Including your intermediate crop.

Solution: don't crop until the very end. I do everything I can in LR, except cropping and vignetting, move to PS, then, back in LR, working on the PSD, I might make some tweaks to levels, crop and add some vignette. One trip, one pass for each.
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9 years 2 weeks ago #433859 by phototrims
Why not you crop with PS first Drfarro ?
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9 years 2 weeks ago #433963 by drfarro
Phototrims - Once you crop in PS, you can't really uncrop without disrupting all of the edits you may have made.  The cropping flexibility in LightRoom is really nice, but you loose it once you move into Photoshop.

Having to crop at the very end seems counterintuitive to me. 
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9 years 2 weeks ago #434007 by phototrims

drfarro wrote: Phototrims - Once you crop in PS, you can't really uncrop without disrupting all of the edits you may have made.  The cropping flexibility in LightRoom is really nice, but you loose it once you move into Photoshop.

Having to crop at the very end seems counterintuitive to me. 


Yeah !! that's the fact.
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9 years 2 weeks ago #434016 by Hassner
I do not understand the urge to uncrop an image.
I crop more than 90% of my images in camera, so I do very few in post.
I have a rather set way of processing and hardly ever go back on any of my steps anymore.
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9 years 2 weeks ago #434035 by drfarro
Hmm, I approach my images differently, more like the way I approach a drawing or painting, adding and subtracting, working the image as a whole from beginning to end.  It's very interesting and helpful to hear how others work.
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9 years 2 weeks ago #434125 by garyrhook
Given the different aspect ratios for prints of various sizes, I've learned to shoot for margin. That way, I can crop to whatever is needed later on.  I've also discovered that what I might think at one point may change later on.

I crop at the end to allow the maximum flexibility.
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9 years 2 weeks ago #434135 by hghlndr6
:agree:

Exactly!  I do the same, for all the same reasons.
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9 years 2 weeks ago #434152 by JeremyS

drfarro wrote: Phototrims - Once you crop in PS, you can't really uncrop without disrupting all of the edits you may have made.  The cropping flexibility in LightRoom is really nice, but you loose it once you move into Photoshop.

Having to crop at the very end seems counterintuitive to me. 


I am struggling to understand how cropping disrupts other edits. I dont see my contrast getting boosted when i crop my photo o.0
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9 years 6 days ago #435299 by tganiats
garyrhook wrote

Given the different aspect ratios for prints of various sizes, I've learned to shoot for margin. That way, I can crop to whatever is needed later on.  I've also discovered that what I might think at one point may change later on.

I crop at the end to allow the maximum flexibility.

I agree.  Plus, depending on the subject, I may want to shoot a bit wide and take the time to compose later, otherwise if I take the time to crop at the time I might miss the shot.  However, even with a landscape, oftentimes the image I see when on location is not as good as the (cropped) image I see later on the computer screen.
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