1ST Black and White

12 years 6 months ago #149927 by ChasDennis
Any suggestions? This is my 1st attempt . Just learning about photography also.






Thanks


Charlie Dennis

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12 years 6 months ago #150322 by photobod
Its not a bad first attempt but the bird looks very blown out so I would address that in your original then try again. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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12 years 6 months ago #150334 by butterflygirl921
Get some more grays in there... Black and White doesn't mean just black and white you need some values....but overall as a first attempt its not that bad


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12 years 6 months ago #152088 by PT Admin

photobod wrote: Its not a bad first attempt but the bird looks very blown out so I would address that in your original then try again. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


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12 years 6 months ago #152137 by ChasDennis
Please describe what BLOW OUT Means.

Thanks Again

Charlie Dennis


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12 years 6 months ago #152139 by robbie

ChasDennis wrote: Please describe what BLOW OUT Means.

Thanks Again

Charlie Dennis

Blow out means that the 'whites' are overexposed.In this shot your camera exposed for the dark background and not taking the white bird into consideration which is in the sunlight.Try using the minus exposure compensation[-ec] to avoid the blow out of the bird.How much to use is dependant on the brightness of the sun hitting the bird,it`s a difficult shooting scene so it`s best to shoot 'raw' with bracketing on.T o access the 'exposure compensation' press the button with the -+ on your camera.


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12 years 6 months ago #152324 by MLKstudios
Could also be something you did in post. Often times people apply "actions" or some other shortcut that pushes the tones outside the 0-255 range.

Best to start with a good color version before converting. Something with a good tonal range.

:)

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12 years 6 months ago #152536 by ChasDennis
How can one tell if the picture is blown out. I am asking because I don't know what you see. All I see is a white bird. I am asking so I know what to look for . Then I will be able to correct this and end up with a better picture.



Thanks

Charlie


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12 years 6 months ago #152541 by VT Hiker

MLKstudios wrote: ... pushes the tones outside the 0-255 range.

What does that mean? How does one go less than 0 or more than 255?


ChasDennis wrote: How can one tell if the picture is blown out.

When there is no texture or detail, essentially a white - or black, for that matter - blob. If you were to go back and look at that bird again, you would see features in the feathers, but they did not end up in your image because they were outside the camera's 'dynamic range' [at that exposure]. Short of metal shining in the sun or some other extreme situation, there should always be details for you to capture, provided you are shooting with an acceptable exposure.

If you want to step into it WAY deep read up on the "zone system". It will teach you more than you ever thought there was to know, or wanted to know, about exposures. :lol:

Every moment of light and dark is a miracle. - Walt Whitman
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12 years 6 months ago #152565 by Stealthy Ninja
automatically reminded me of this:
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12 years 6 months ago #153293 by rob vorderman
Charlie, after taken the picture, check the histogram. Press the Info button, on the back of your camera.
If the graph is to the left the picture is under exposed, to the right over exposed.

Rob.


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12 years 6 months ago - 12 years 6 months ago #153294 by MLKstudios
Ideally the histogram "mountain" should be almost, but not quite, touching the right edge.

We call that ETTR (Expose To The Right), which maximises digital data without blowouts.

I still think the problem here was caused in post. I imagine the orignal has details in the whites.

Matthew L Kees
MLK Studios Photography School
www.MLKstudios.com
[email protected]
"Every artist, was once an amateur"

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12 years 6 months ago #154348 by ChasDennis
I want to thank all of you for all your advice.


With all of this my 2nd blk and white should turn out better.

The Problem was with the original picture. Exposure was to much to the right.


Charlie


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