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Which entry level DSLR???


12 years 3 months ago #190603 by stancho_75
Hi all skilled and helpful.
I have a niece of 14 years. She attended two years of workshop for photo enthusiasts. During this time, has appeared with my personal camera Canon PowerShot S3 IS. Her friend has a Canon 400D, so there is an idea and work with him. Must choose a DSLR camera from lower class and the necessary accessories for the beginner - bag, memory cards, filters, possibly extra battery, remote trigger, and what a find it necessary. I stopped on the Canon 1100D, Canon 600D or may be Nikon D3100. As every child loves to shoot whatever comes along and still is headed for something specific, perhaps portraits, sports / basketball / macro and landscape. I would be grateful to all who offer specific brands, models and possible links. Limit for the whole story is 500 pounds. Orders will be made in ebay.co.uk. Will be delivered in London.
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12 years 3 months ago #190611 by Rob pix4u2
The Nikon D3100 is a good entry level DSLR for her to start out with but you might consider a Canon product if your circle of friends or her friends shoot Canon because there is the issue of having some folks familiar with that system
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12 years 3 months ago #190617 by stancho_75
I think it would be one of thеsе . Help me to select which to be.
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12 years 3 months ago #190618 by mattmoran
:agree:
In addition to having friends familiar with the system, if one person buys a different type of lens, your niece might get to try it out and expand her range.
-Matt
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12 years 3 months ago #190625 by mattmoran

stancho_75 wrote: I think it would be one of thеsе . Help me to select which to be.


Do those kits include memory cards?

I would think the first one would be okay. It gives her a pretty good range of focal lengths to play with. Hopefully after a while she would realize the limitations on her own and upgrade the glass.

I have no idea if those are good prices or not cause I don't know the exchange rate and what's available in London. I imagine that even if I knew the exchange rate it would still be an apples to oranges comparison because of VAT and warranty issues.
-Matt
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12 years 3 months ago #190629 by mattmoran
Does the class require a DSLR? Cause if not I'd look at other options.

I'm not a big fan of the small sensor DSLRs.
-Matt
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12 years 3 months ago - 12 years 3 months ago #190650 by stancho_75
mattmoran, but what else would offer an alternative to the small sensor DSLRs.?
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12 years 3 months ago #190654 by mattmoran

stancho_75 wrote: mattmoran, but what else would offer an alternative to the small sensor DSLRs.?


A mirrorless rangefinder like one of these:
www.dpreview.com/products/olympus/slrs/oly_ep2
www.dpreview.com/products/sony/slrs/sony_nex3
www.dpreview.com/products/panasonic/slrs/panasonic_dmcgf3

I'm really not sure what the UK prices would be. Each of these companies have more expensive bodies as well.

What seems essential to me is that you have full manual control and some flexibility. If you are going to be using an APS-C or 4/3 size sensor, you might as well also get an unobtrusive and easy to carry camera out of the deal.
-Matt
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12 years 3 months ago #190658 by stancho_75
From last three i like only Panasonic and will think for that. Thank you.
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12 years 3 months ago - 12 years 3 months ago #190662 by KCook

stancho_75 wrote: I think it would be one of thеsе . Help me to select which to be.

My pick would be the 1100D in Grey with 18-55mm IS. All but one of the other bundles have the 18-55 without stabilization (not even sold in the USA market).

Kelly Cook
Canon 50D, Olympus PL2
kellycook.zenfolio.com/
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12 years 3 months ago #191209 by LeahJean84

mattmoran wrote: Does the class require a DSLR? Cause if not I'd look at other options.

I'm not a big fan of the small sensor DSLRs.


You may not be a big fan of small sensor DSLRs, but that doesn't mean they are not good cameras or that people should not buy them. Those just starting out in the DSLR world should start on a small sensor camera to get the feel of the camera and the understanding of photography.
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12 years 3 months ago #191225 by stancho_75
We made the choice for better or worse. We stopped on the 1100D with EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II and 50mm/f1.8. Furthermore, remained at 90 pounds for accessories. Now we have to read, take pictures and learn. Anyway after a while if the benefit can go a more serious lens. Thanks to all who answered with an opinion.
And if you can advise me on the SD memory card - how many GB you think is optimal and what class is like speed.
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12 years 3 months ago #191235 by Baydream
Good choice to learn on. A pair of 8GB Class 10 cards would be a good choice. It offers lots of shots. Allows for a backup to keep shooting when downloading and Class 10 gives the transfer speed you will need. Class 6 is cheaper but may not keep up with your camera.
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12 years 3 months ago #191236 by mattmoran

stancho_75 wrote: And if you can advise me on the SD memory card - how many GB you think is optimal and what class is like speed.


If your niece shoots RAW, a 4GB card will probably hold around 300 pictures, which I think is plenty for a day's shooting. As for speed, get the fastest card you can; but don't sweat it. Unless she's doing sports photography and shooting long bursts, the speed of the card will probably not be a limiting factor.
-Matt
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12 years 3 months ago #191240 by mattmoran

LeahJean84 wrote:

mattmoran wrote: Does the class require a DSLR? Cause if not I'd look at other options.

I'm not a big fan of the small sensor DSLRs.


You may not be a big fan of small sensor DSLRs, but that doesn't mean they are not good cameras or that people should not buy them. Those just starting out in the DSLR world should start on a small sensor camera to get the feel of the camera and the understanding of photography.


I never said small sensor DSLRs aren't good cameras. However, you can, for about the same price, get a small sensor (APS-C or 4/3) mirror-less camera with the same image quality, the same creative control, and a much smaller, more portable and less obtrusive form factor. To my mind, that makes them a better value and a better choice for aspiring photographers.

But the 1100D the OP ended up buying is a fine camera.
-Matt
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