HEIC to replace JPG?

9 months 2 weeks ago #672226 by Glen Mosley
I thought I read about a camera (non Apple) offering HEIC as one of the file formats for photos, could HEIC replace JPGs in all cameras with a firmware update?


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9 months 2 weeks ago #672227 by Nikon Shooter
Technically thinkable,
quite possible,
and will be most beneficial.

The sooner the better but it
would never replace the Raw.

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9 months 2 weeks ago #672229 by Glen Mosley

Nikon Shooter wrote: Technically thinkable,
quite possible,
and will be most beneficial.

The sooner the better but it
would never replace the Raw.


Will be nice that it's recognized by more websites.  When I send photos from my phone to upload online, so many websites don't accept HEIC files, which means I need to go to a converter first. 

BTW which camera has incorporated HEIC files already.  I know I read an article, and though there was one already, but I can't seem to find it.


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9 months 2 weeks ago #672236 by Nikon Shooter

Glen Mosley wrote: Will be nice that it's recognized by more websites.


The sense and purpose of the format is to allow the image
to contain more data for possible adjustments but, ultima-
tely, the end result for the web won't bring much.

Glen Mosley wrote: BTW which camera has incorporated HEIC files already.

None of my cameras do and, as I exclusively work with Raw
files, I would get nothing from that new format.

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9 months 2 weeks ago #672243 by Ozzie_Traveller
G'day Glen

Qwik answer matey ... don't think so
Long answer ... JPEG has been around in one form or another for 50 years and serves the media / communications industry very well. I remember visiting the photo dep't of one of our major newspapers back in 1969 and seeing them scan a B&W photo in their equivalent of today's flat bed scanner which had a half-tone screen/mask across the platter, then connect it into the "modem" which beeped in sync with another some 500 miles away and at a speed of 96 bits per second, the image was transmitted over the phone lines and shared city-to-city

They could only do this via that very early form of JPG algorithm

I remember from the 80s, where Wang computers were very proactive along with ALL the other industry players in revising the JPG algorithms for document transfer 'around the paperless-office of the future' - and again ALL the big players in the industry came together to revise the JPG format

A decade ago Adobe offered DNG as a new standard for a common format for RAW images - and it has not been taken up as widely as they had hoped

This format has been created as far as I know, via a modification from the movie equivalent, MPEG and taken up by Apple in their products. Until -or unless- the whole world of camera makers adopt an Apple format with all its inherrent licencing issues, I for one can't see it happening

Phil from the great land Downunder
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9 months 2 weeks ago #672252 by garyrhook
+1 on Phil's comments, above.

HEIC is a superior compression algorithm, but that's irrelevant for web servers. The only thing that matters is small files and fast transmission/loading. More data doesn't align with those goals.

Therefore, JPG is here to stay. We have PNG for superior images (most servers support it), and I don't see much call for the middle ground. So Apple's interests are for their fan base, nothing more.

You do know that there's a JPEG2000 format, right? Better than JPEG, and no one supports it, either.


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9 months 2 weeks ago #672309 by Uplander
OMG, when you think about all the millions of cameras out there shooting JPG, most older, there is no way that would completely replace JPGs.  


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9 months 1 week ago #673289 by Ontherocks

Nikon Shooter wrote: Technically thinkable,
quite possible,
and will be most beneficial.

The sooner the better but it
would never replace the Raw.


True, but don't the HEIC photos include motion of 1 second or so?


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9 months 1 week ago #673454 by garyrhook

Ontherocks wrote:

Nikon Shooter wrote: Technically thinkable,
quite possible,
and will be most beneficial.

The sooner the better but it
would never replace the Raw.


True, but don't the HEIC photos include motion of 1 second or so?


Um, so? Has that ever been beneficial to you? I've got that on my iPhone, and it's never "saved" any shot. At least, for me. I turned it off.


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