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5 years 1 month ago #635716 by garyrhook
Tried my hand at a bit of interior work for an arts organization. Nikon D850 with a 20mm lens. The wall of mirrors was a challenge.

What works, what doesn't work?

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There are a few more in my Architecture album here on PT.
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5 years 1 month ago #635734 by Nikon Shooter
Well done with the mirrors in the second, Gary.

The issue that seems to beg for a tweak here is the WB, IMO.
Light is free… capturing it is not!
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5 years 1 month ago #635802 by Steve Rodriguez
The lighting is good. I also like the second shot. 
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5 years 1 month ago #635858 by garyrhook

Nikon Shooter wrote: Well done with the mirrors in the second, Gary.

The issue that seems to beg for a tweak here is the WB, IMO.


It was an extremely yellow room, both in decor and lighting. What you see is what the camera chose. I did not shoot a gray card, and am unable to find any settings that improve upon this.

Instead of suggesting that the WB needs a tweak, perhaps it would be more helpful to suggest what that tweak might actually be?f
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5 years 1 month ago - 5 years 1 month ago #635865 by Nikon Shooter

garyrhook wrote: It was an extremely yellow room, both in decor and lighting. What you see is what the camera chose. I did not shoot a gray card, and am unable to find any settings that improve upon this.

That's why I always have a colour checker in my bag,

garyrhook wrote: Instead of suggesting that the WB needs a tweak, perhaps it would be more helpful to suggest what that tweak might actually be?f

I assumed a guy like you would know the way out.

I got your first shot in my converter and I noticed that the columns 
are white… use a part that is lit indirectly to sample the WB.
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5 years 1 month ago #635867 by Shadowfixer1
Use the piano keys on the images with the piano in it.
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5 years 1 month ago #635868 by Nikon Shooter

Shadowfixer1 wrote: Use the piano keys on the images with the piano in it.


Yes, the white keys would be a good way but they are directly lit
and there is no way to know if the piano's body was stained.
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5 years 1 month ago #635869 by Shadowfixer1
All I know is it looks right when you use the keys. I tried it.
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5 years 1 month ago #635881 by KCook
I'm sure these are better than I could do. That said, I would expect the piano keys in #3 and #4 to be brighter, regardless of color cast. My wife used to play the darned things.

Kelly
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5 years 1 month ago #635915 by Kira Minori
I like the composition of the 4th shot as well. I like the placement of the piano in this shot. Good photo. 
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5 years 1 month ago #635995 by garyrhook

Shadowfixer1 wrote: All I know is it looks right when you use the keys. I tried it.


When I sample the front end of a key in the original, I get a temp of 3250 and a tint of -1. It's green. The results from the processed image (above) are even worse. What LR values do you get?

Also: what precisely do we not like about the toning? Too pink?

By all means, post a modified version. I'm curious as to what it looks like on my calibrated monitor.
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5 years 1 month ago #635996 by garyrhook

Nikon Shooter wrote: That's why I always have a colour checker in my bag,


Yeah, it was in the wrong bag.

I assumed a guy like you would know the way out.


Not helpful. Data, not opinions, are what I'm asking for.

I got your first shot in my converter and I noticed that the columns are white… use a part that is lit indirectly to sample the WB.


That would be incorrect. I live in Texas. Nothing is painted white here. Everything is some shade that isn't exact; mostly it's Rainier white or antique white, both slightly yellow. FYI sampling the column in middle of #5 (original image) provides a temp of 2350. What does C1 think it should be?
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5 years 1 month ago #635997 by garyrhook
And, for what it's worth, the unedited image (except for an simple exposure boost), which to me is extremely pink. The D850 chose a temp of 2500 and a tint of +10 (LR values). When I sample the keys, I get 2350/-2. Neither of which I like.


Make: NIKON CORPORATION
Model: NIKON D850
Lens: 20.0 mm f/2.8
ISO: 200
Aperture: f/11.0
Shutter speed: 1.3 sec
Captured: Sat, 9 Mar 2019 17:41pm



By all means, please explain what I should do here.
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5 years 1 month ago #636010 by KCook

garyrhook wrote: And, for what it's worth, the unedited image (except for an simple exposure boost), which to me is extremely pink. The D850 chose a temp of 2500 and a tint of +10 (LR values). When I sample the keys, I get 2350/-2. Neither of which I like.


Make: NIKON CORPORATION
Model: NIKON D850
Lens: 20.0 mm f/2.8
ISO: 200
Aperture: f/11.0
Shutter speed: 1.3 sec
Captured: Sat, 9 Mar 2019 17:41pm



By all means, please explain what I should do here.

At least the keys are plenty bright :thumbsup:

As for color correction, I don't mind saying I don't have a clue.  I've never been there, how does it match your memory?  As an interior decorator I would not like this tint.  But - I'm not an interior decorator - nor would anybody ever hire me for that.

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5 years 1 month ago #636020 by Nikon Shooter
C1 renders this after I applied parametric colour tweaks

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