My friend's thoughts on RAW and jpeg

11 years 3 months ago #269495 by jmk-nbsc
There you go! Never mind the grain, look at the improvement in color! Your adjustments just make it pop. Look at her eyes particularly.

jim.


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11 years 3 months ago #269499 by Lightpuller

Scotty wrote:

Lightpuller wrote:

Joves wrote:

Leilanee wrote:

Lightpuller wrote: The problem with that is that people print from jpegs not raw files. So your arguments don't make a lot of sense. Why would i need all that extra stuff that can't be used in a final print. Also, a camera should know the best way to process the information, not some program created by people who don't even work for the camera companies.

Like Leilanee said, the results of raw are not as good as jpeg. Seems to me my friend is way off base.


Thank you! I am way smarter than Photoshop gives me credit for.

I do not always print from Jpeg as others have stated. Sometimes I actually print from TIFF, a file format that you cannot create from a Jpeg image. Well you can but it would be a sorry TIFF file to print from.
First I agree that you can get great images in the Jpeg format, but you cannot really add information to that Jpeg, and a Jpeg will never have the same latitude in adjustment that a RAW file has ever. So if you screw a Jpeg image too much when shooting, and you process it to try and make it right, it will look like an over processed image, or under processed, depending on which way you had to settle for. As where with a RAW image I have all of the data of the image to process, and can get a better photo from a screwed one, this too is within reason, some images are just too screwed to fix.
I personally shoot RAW+Jpeg for the very reason that if I screw the image up more than a few adjustments will fix, I can fall back on the RAW. With Jpegs you have to intentionally make your adjustments before you shoot, to get what you may want in an image. I call it pre-processing an image, but even with that you can sometimes get it to wrong to fix it as a Jpeg. You should try it sometime shooting in dual format, and when you run across one that no matter what you do to that Jpeg it never looks quite right, then process the RAW and see how much more you can get out of it. Or actually how much better you can correct it.
To me it sounds like you all have been reading too much Ken Rockwell.


I went on Ken Rockwell's site and he said he has a left handed camera with elephant penis skin custom grip. I'm not sure I can trust him. Some of what he says is very good though. I agree with his views on jpeg.

I've never heard of a Tiff file, what is that? Can cameras shoot in Tiff? Do I need to buy photoshop CS6 to use raw?


lol please don't tell me that actually says that on his site.


www.kenrockwell.com/about.htm#lefty

"I even had a veterinarian friend in Africa who specializes in elephant care send me some phallus hide from the Loxodonta Africana (known for its flexibility and grip when wet) which I then had a local taxidermist apply to my camera in place of the original rubber. It took a lot of paperwork with the U.S. Dept. of Fish and Game but at least it doesn't peel off on my D1H as the rubber does."


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