The Case Against the "Z" System — Lighter… Really?

1 year 6 months ago #712875 by Nikon Shooter
All the fuss around the newer mirrorless Z system is getting ridiculous 
if you ask me… it feels like talking to scientology adept or creationists.

… but it is lighter!

The mirrorless body is indeed lighter — by about a third — but is that
of any good? There will be long road map until there are enough Z len-
ses to accommodate the actual F mount users. The new glasses will be
fatter and heavier to fit the Z mount… lighter, really? Using an F lens on
a Z body means the use of the adaptor. Again, lighter… really?

If one uses Z lenses, like the 50mm ƒ1.2, there will be a outrageous gain
gain in size, weight, and price that all make me shiver and all will make
any combo feel very front heavy. So not really lighter and unbalanced.

There are mirrorless cameras that are very light… the Point & Shoots.

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1 year 6 months ago - 1 year 6 months ago #712935 by Shadowfixer1

Nikon Shooter wrote: All the fuss around the newer mirrorless Z system is getting ridiculous 
if you ask me… it feels like talking to scientology adept or creationists.

… but it is lighter!

The mirrorless body is indeed lighter — by about a third — but is that
of any good? There will be long road map until there are enough Z len-
ses to accommodate the actual F mount users. The new glasses will be
fatter and heavier to fit the Z mount… lighter, really? Using an F lens on
a Z body means the use of the adaptor. Again, lighter… really?

If one uses Z lenses, like the 50mm ƒ1.2, there will be a outrageous gain
gain in size, weight, and price that all make me shiver and all will make
any combo feel very front heavy. So not really lighter and unbalanced.

There are mirrorless cameras that are very light… the Point & Shoots.

Do you feel threatened by mirrorless or something? Your statement that the Z lenses will be bigger and heavier is not correct. The 24-70 2.8 Z lens weighs 75% of the F-mount. The 70-200 2.8 Z weighs 95% of what the F mount does. Your theory and conclusion is wrong. 

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1 year 6 months ago #712943 by Nikon Shooter

Shadowfixer1 wrote: Your statement that the Z lenses will be bigger and heavier is not correct. The 24-70 2.8 Z lens weighs 75% of the F-mount. The 70-200 2.8 Z weighs 95% of what the F mount does. Your theory and conclusion is wrong. 


That still makes for front heavy combos.

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1 year 5 months ago #713295 by Chris Briggs
Never heard anything like this about the Z mount.  But hey, I'm not one to judge.  If you don't like it, you don't like it.  


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1 year 5 months ago #713298 by Nikon Shooter

Chris Briggs wrote: But hey, I'm not one to judge.  If you don't like it, you don't like it.  



Hi Chris,

this is a case against… so anyone can bring up some for arguments. 
The most important is the discussion, nothing to prove nor to judge!

:P

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1 year 5 months ago #714007 by fmw
Perhaps the Z isn't all that light but there are systems that are such as my Fuji X system.  My system has a bunch of lenses and, if you need something it doesn't have, you can adapt an SLR lens and bulk up at the same time.  It is OK to dislike mirrorless systems.  It makes little sense to project the characteristics of a system you don't like on all mirrorless cameras.


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1 year 5 months ago #714511 by Pettigrew
Either way it's good to see NIkon is ramping up things on their Z line up.  They need a boost.  

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1 year 5 months ago #714834 by Nikon Shooter

Pettigrew wrote: They need a boost.  


I would like to see a follow up to the D850 with 60 MP for one thing! :P

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5 months 1 week ago #736050 by Russtopher
Personally, I just do not like the ergonomics of the mirrorless rigs. But I will experiment with mirrorless on my D780.


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4 months 1 week ago #737721 by Chester Foster
Did you end up getting a Z?


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3 months 3 weeks ago #738512 by lightcapture
I whole heartily agree. If DSLRs last I'll be using one for a while. I love my 3 G lenses as well as my manual lenses.


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1 month 3 weeks ago #741332 by Tim Giertz
I'm after the Z8 whenever that gets released


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1 month 2 weeks ago #741611 by lightcapture
This may be the D850 mirrorless replacement.


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