Off camera flash who uses them?

11 years 7 months ago #251242 by bluerinse
;) off camera flash
is it only for pros whats your view ?


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11 years 7 months ago #251244 by effron
I have three units, and I'm no pro. They're for anyone that needs or wants to put quality, controllable light on a subject...... ;)

Why so serious?
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11 years 7 months ago #251247 by crabby
can you achieve the same results with on camera flash?


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11 years 7 months ago #251253 by Henry Peach

crabby wrote: can you achieve the same results with on camera flash?


In some situations bouncing can work to change light direction, but you have to have ceilings, walls, reflectors, or something else to bounce off of, in the right location.

I prefer off camera flash when I can use it. The simplest method is just holding the flash, but that means I'm holding the camera one handed. I think that's okay for snaps and party pics, but if I'm going for best quality I want to hold my camera with both hands. I sometimes use a flash stand (little plastic thing that comes with my EOS speedlights) or a bungee cord to place an off camera flash, but those require a table surface or pole in the right place. Most of the time I use a lightstand, but that requires room to place, and that may not be an option in crowded areas. Sometimes I use an assistant to hold the flash. That is my favorite. At strobist.com they call that the "voice operated light stand", or something like that.

If I'm using on-camera or on-bracket flash I try to bounce whenever possible. Even with high, dark ceilings I'll do my best to bounce. Direct, on-camera flash (at least as the key light) tends to be boring, unflattering, and a characteristic of the look of snapshots.
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11 years 7 months ago #251257 by chasrich

Henry Peach wrote:

crabby wrote: can you achieve the same results with on camera flash?


In some situations bouncing can work to change light direction, but you have to have ceilings, walls, reflectors, or something else to bounce off of, in the right location.

I prefer off camera flash when I can use it. The simplest method is just holding the flash, but that means I'm holding the camera one handed. I think that's okay for snaps and party pics, but if I'm going for best quality I want to hold my camera with both hands. I sometimes use a flash stand (little plastic thing that comes with my EOS speedlights) or a bungee cord to place an off camera flash, but those require a table surface or pole in the right place. Most of the time I use a lightstand, but that requires room to place, and that may not be an option in crowded areas. Sometimes I use an assistant to hold the flash. That is my favorite. At strobist.com they call that the "voice operated light stand", or something like that.

If I'm using on-camera or on-bracket flash I try to bounce whenever possible. Even with high, dark ceilings I'll do my best to bounce. Direct, on-camera flash (at least as the key light) tends to be boring, unflattering, and a characteristic of the look of snapshots.


Good tips...

“Amateurs worry about equipment, professionals worry about money, masters worry about light, I just make pictures… ” ~ Vernon Trent
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11 years 7 months ago #251259 by NotDadsW41
No pro here. I bought a Strobist kit thru mpex.com Two flashes, two stands, two umbrellas and Cactus triggers.

Love 'em.

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D40, D7000

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11 years 7 months ago - 11 years 7 months ago #251267 by McBeth Photography
Lol, every time I meet up and hang out with my friend Mike, a wedding photographer with 25+ years of experience, he starts the conversation with the same line, "Barry you need to embrace your flash!" Well I am doing just that, finally, I've been doing lots of product shots for my wife's ebay sales and using off-camera flash for portraits too.

I keep an extra adapter plate with me now to make my tripod into a lightstand, complete with an umbrella holder, much sturdier than a light stand and my tripod is always with me anyhow, and I'm finding that even if I think that my subject is well lit......adding flash will make it better most of the time. It's especially useful for those situations with direct sunlight backlighting your subject.

It is what it is.
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11 years 7 months ago #251295 by crabby
guess im going to have to get a bigger wheel barrow


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11 years 7 months ago #251365 by Henry Peach

crabby wrote: guess im going to have to get a bigger wheel barrow


Check out Strobist.com for lots of good tips on keeping the gear light. I always thought that the compact light stands wouldn't really be enough smaller than a typical light stand to make a difference, but after buying a few they pack up significantly smaller. The downside is that they aren't as tall, and aren't as stable when fully extended, but for a lot of situations they work great, and still fit in my lighting bag.
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11 years 7 months ago #251461 by Overread
There are some good video's on YouTube that have been very helpful to me too.


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11 years 7 months ago #251464 by Joves
I use it when I need it. I even have one of those crappy Vivitar plastic tripods for mounting it. Granted it will not hold up a reflector, but a flash no problem. You can find those at Big Lots for about $10. Photography as we all know is about the light, if Mother Nature is not giving you what you need to get it right, then that is why they created flashes.


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11 years 7 months ago #251540 by MYoung
I use a off camera flash, but hardly a pro. I'm using it on all my shoots, but most my work is with out flash.


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11 years 7 months ago #251609 by Raymond II

Overread wrote: There are some good video's on YouTube that have been very helpful to me too.


:agree: Check the tips section here


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