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7 years 8 months ago #493609 by Sammy Marc
I just read this article ( fstoppers.com/originals/photography-art-...eed-not-apply-142352 ) about how FStoppers gets backlash for posting photos that have obviously been manipulated in post. The guy has a good argument that there are no rules in photography and whether what you do is in camera or in post, it's still art and art isn't governed by rules.

I like his take on the subject. What do you guys think?
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7 years 8 months ago #493612 by effron
Whatever, as long as a manipulated photo isn't pushed as otherwise...and honesty is most important in photo journalism though. Many genres like some astro/night photos aren't possible without some processing techniques, so I tend to lean toward "no rules" myself....
Why so serious?
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7 years 8 months ago #493635 by KCook
The word "rules" often starts arguments.  So this is partly an issue in semantics.  My personal practice is that I will clone out telephone poles, etc, to clean up an image.  But I do not composite objects into the scene, or replace skies.  That's just me, not a rule.

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7 years 8 months ago #493647 by icepics
A photograph isn't necessarily art just because some guy on a website says so. He's referred to as a 'curator' when that job in the real world takes much more skill than picking out photos on a website. Especially one where the so called writers are site users who submit articles but don't necessarily have any expertise or skill in writing as far as I can tell (and usually aren't getting paid).

I think it's better if a photo is a composite or altered that it be referred to as a photo illustration or an altered photo. Whether it's done digitally or for people like me who do 'alternative processes' done by hand, it takes it from being a photograph to a photo illustration/altered photo. If that's not being made clear that could be why they've gotten some backlash.

And since I only occasionally have glanced at fstoppers I took a look and I don't see where they're located (to find out if they're even a registered business). Glancing thru their Terms I don't think I could agree to those if I wanted to use their site/do a submission. I can tell somebody is making money from ads... other than that I don't think I'd put too much value on what they say about photography.
Sharon
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7 years 8 months ago #493664 by cabbot
I'm in the "who cares" camp, I suppose. On the one hand, art is art, so the argument that there are not rules is valid in that sense (in my opinion anyway). I do see the other side of the issue as well, in that if it's a composite it should be labeled as such. It really is a matter of semantics and honesty as others have pointed out.
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7 years 7 months ago #493778 by bojojo
In my opinion the notion that the legitimacy of a photograph as a piece of art is in any way linked to the amount of processing its gone through is ludicrous. I understand the discrepancies that arise as far as journalistic integrity goes, but otherwise, I say that there are no real rules.
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7 years 7 months ago #493942 by Patrick G
Eh, people get worked up for silly crap if you ask me.  If the photo works for the purpose, in famous words from the Beatles... "Let it be".  
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7 years 7 months ago #494074 by Gus
Couldn't have said it any better!
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