Mike McKinnon wrote: I was exploring an old factory yesterday snapping off some snots. When I exited the building, I then noticed a 'No Trespassing' sign. Which I missed going into the building. I just took photos, nothing else, and I respected the place.
This just got me thinking on the drive home, if I had been caught in there, would it be a verbal warning or drag me by the ankles to the patty wagon?
Really though, Have you been arrested, received a ticket or any sort of trouble for taking photos where you shouldn't have?
garyrhook wrote:
Mike McKinnon wrote: I was exploring an old factory yesterday snapping off some snots. When I exited the building, I then noticed a 'No Trespassing' sign. Which I missed going into the building. I just took photos, nothing else, and I respected the place.
This just got me thinking on the drive home, if I had been caught in there, would it be a verbal warning or drag me by the ankles to the patty wagon?
Really though, Have you been arrested, received a ticket or any sort of trouble for taking photos where you shouldn't have?
Re: trespassing. That has nothing to do with photography, and unless it's some sort of security issue, I think most people would simply be asked to leave.
Where you shouldn't: photography isn't illegal in public, ever. It's disallowed in some places (government buildings as dictated, or by ordinance). On private property, again, it's a trespassing issue. Unless one resisted, one would not get a ticket, me thinks.
Short answer: no. I got (wrongfully) shut down a few times when I got started, and then educated myself. I know the law now. And I don't trespass, I just ask for what I want. The worst? I'm told "no".
Mike McKinnon wrote: When you say "Wrongfully" shut down, what happened?
But in the case of abandoned building, who would you even ask for something like that?
garyrhook wrote:
Mike McKinnon wrote: When you say "Wrongfully" shut down, what happened?
But in the case of abandoned building, who would you even ask for something like that?
I was attending a free performance of a play in a city park (public property, no ordinance against photography) surrounded by people with mobile phones. The stage manager saw my camera (and the 70-200 lens) and came over to tell me I couldn't take photos.
1) No legal basis for that.
2) Wasn't concerned about every other camera there.
My wife didn't want me to "create a scene" although I would have simply informed him of my legal rights, and asked him to leave me alone. I called the theater company the next day to complain about him, and suggest they educate him on the law.
That was early on. Now I would stand my ground and explain to someone why a request like that would be wrong, and I won't comply.
As for abandoned buildings, I'm not into UrbEx, but the city would probably have jursidiction, and would say no because of liability. I think most UrbEx folks simply trespass. Even an owner is unlikely to grant access due to risk of injury.
GaryA wrote: This reminded me of taking my family to a city owned water park. Park employees came over and informed me I couldn't take photos with my camera. I pointed to all the people shooting away with their cell phones and they said it was the size of my camera. I requested to speak with the supervisor but she didn't understand that legally there isn't a difference between my XT2 and a cell phone camera. But she refused to listen and keep emphasizing my "Big" camera. Not wanting to have my day ruined by stupidity I put the camera away.
garyrhook wrote:
GaryA wrote: This reminded me of taking my family to a city owned water park. Park employees came over and informed me I couldn't take photos with my camera. I pointed to all the people shooting away with their cell phones and they said it was the size of my camera. I requested to speak with the supervisor but she didn't understand that legally there isn't a difference between my XT2 and a cell phone camera. But she refused to listen and keep emphasizing my "Big" camera. Not wanting to have my day ruined by stupidity I put the camera away.
Unfortunately, they could probably ask you to leave for any reason, valid or not, so best to chalk it up to ignorance and let it go. Just another example of the failure of our educational system and citizenry to teach critical thinking skills.
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