Why isn't Canon, Panasonic and others pushing XQD memory cards?

6 months 1 week ago #655520 by Fran Welch
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like Nikon is the only one pushing this koolaid.  Why is that? 


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6 months 1 week ago #655578 by garyrhook
Good question. I'll ignore the licensing crapola (Sony "owns" the technology).

The problem here is that XQD is a solution in search of a problem. It provides very high bandwidth that just isn't required by current image sizes. Even 4K 30p video can be easily handled by UHS-II cards. XQD is far above that.

The advantage of XQD is that the card becomes a PCI storage device, which puts it closer to the CPU, and removes the need for memory for buffering. I have a D850 (7 fps) and writing directly to the single XQD card, I can hold the button down pretty much forever. The camera never slows down.

So until we start seeing large sensors with a high frame rate, or 60p 4K video (or greater... 6K? 8K?) there's no compelling need for XQD.

Either the manufacturers will all move to greater MP counts and fps, thereby creating a need for XQD, or it will become another Memory Stick.

Finally, what we really want is CFE: same form factor, same speed and function (effectively), no license. We're waiting for a FW update for the D850 that enables CFE on that body. I'm hopeful.


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6 months 1 week ago #655622 by Nikon Shooter
I'd rather have a long bursting body than not.

Mind you, the greatest advantage for me is that when trans-
ferring the files to the desktop, in T3, it only takes seconds.

Light is free… capturing it is not!
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6 months 1 week ago #655645 by Jim Photo

garyrhook wrote: Good question. I'll ignore the licensing crapola (Sony "owns" the technology).

The problem here is that XQD is a solution in search of a problem. It provides very high bandwidth that just isn't required by current image sizes. Even 4K 30p video can be easily handled by UHS-II cards. XQD is far above that.

The advantage of XQD is that the card becomes a PCI storage device, which puts it closer to the CPU, and removes the need for memory for buffering. I have a D850 (7 fps) and writing directly to the single XQD card, I can hold the button down pretty much forever. The camera never slows down.

So until we start seeing large sensors with a high frame rate, or 60p 4K video (or greater... 6K? 8K?) there's no compelling need for XQD.

Either the manufacturers will all move to greater MP counts and fps, thereby creating a need for XQD, or it will become another Memory Stick.

Finally, what we really want is CFE: same form factor, same speed and function (effectively), no license. We're waiting for a FW update for the D850 that enables CFE on that body. I'm hopeful.



Damn good answer, are you an engineer of some sort?  


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6 months 1 week ago #655731 by garyrhook

Jim Photo wrote: Damn good answer, are you an engineer of some sort?  


I've been a musician for 48 years, a software engineer for 34, and a photographer for 6.


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6 months 1 week ago #655767 by Roy Wilson
What instrument do you play?  You have an interesting blend of a background Gary! 

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6 months 1 week ago #655770 by garyrhook

Roy Wilson wrote: What instrument do you play?  You have an interesting blend of a background Gary! 


I started on woodwinds (bassoon, sax), then piano/keyboards and voice in college, where I also started arranging and composing. Later on drums and bass, along with engineering and producing. I'm also a member of ASCAP.


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6 months 1 week ago #655798 by Moe
You would think other camera makers would follow suit as the future proofs cameras


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6 months 1 week ago #655811 by Conner
Interesting, never paid much attention to who was using these cards and who wasn't.  


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