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4 years 3 months ago #670872 by Chester Foster
I forget where I saw a story that broke down how 500px had made the connection between what they had considered as photography vs what they had considered photo manipulation.   

I've been thinking about this, how can there be a defined clear line to separate or identify these?  Seems like this would be complicated and not 'one size fits all' scenarios.  
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4 years 3 months ago #670880 by Jackson Rieger
In my book, photo manipulations deals with distortion of reality, which on paper isn't photography.  If you cut something out of shot or add something, this is distorting reality, which technically isn't photography.  
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4 years 3 months ago #670888 by effron
All art forms "distort" reality. I manipulate every photographic shot, I doubt ones and zeros in long lines would have much ascetic value.
I try not to go too deep, either I like a photo or I don't.
Why so serious?
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4 years 3 months ago #670891 by Nikon Shooter

Jackson Rieger wrote: If you cut something out of shot or add something, this is distorting reality, which technically isn't photography.  


Let's say, Jackson, that a beautiful picture was made of
a great subject, perfectly composed, in fantastic light…
but at SR, a fly landed on the nose of the subject right
there in a most obvious spot.

The shot is not photography if the fly is removed? Really?
Light is free… capturing it is not!
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4 years 3 months ago #670898 by icepics
It isn't the truth of what was photographed, is it? But I've done sports and events and objects/subjects are not removed, that's the standard of ethics in photojournalism. If someone wants to edit out objects that's up to them; I guess it's still a photograph but I think it needs to be made clear somehow that the photo was edited, that there's something no longer real or true about what was actually there in the final image.

In art if a photograph is edited into another type of artwork it becomes a photo illustration. Usually the standard is that editing would include adjusting brightness, contrast, slight cropping, etc. More than that takes it into being a photo illustration because it's no longer strictly a photograph.

I don't know what 500pix considers it to be, they're in the business of making money from photos & photographers using their site, they aren't about art.
Sharon
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4 years 3 months ago #670903 by effron

icepics wrote: ...the standard of ethics in photojournalism.


I agree with you 99% Sharon, except the above statement has become an oxymoron. There are more "ethics" at 500px than current media by a long stretch.
Why so serious?
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4 years 3 months ago #671018 by Jason Stevens
Are these the same people who say using a flash is a big no no?  LOL seriously create shots that work best for you, your vision and screw what others think.    Photography is an expression of you.  
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