Enthusiast and Pro's in the same camera boat?

3 months 1 week ago #676469 by EOS_Fan
I was just thinking that these days, there are so many enthusiast who are using pro cameras.  I don't think there has been more of this ever.  I  know back in day at least with my immediate friends and family, camera gear we owned was more towards the enthusiast side of things.  

How times have changed.  So many people are owning cameras that are way over their heads vs back in the day.  

What brought this thought up is in the last 2 months I have had a few people that I know, buy into camera platforms, that were WAY over their head.  Most recent is my neighbor just ordered a Nikon D5 for his first camera.  Why?  "It's the best".   :huh:   In my head I'm thinking 'It's way over your head is what it is'.  

Do you agree?  


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3 months 1 week ago #676479 by effron
What makes a D5 over your neighbor's head? Can he not learn to use that particular body and would have been fine with a D850?

Why so serious?
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3 months 1 week ago #676480 by Ozzie_Traveller
G'day eos

This 'buy a brand-name product' has been with us "forever" - as there are many people who want a status symbol above the apparently better option of something else. Back in film camera days of the 60s-70s, I met people with Nikon cameras + Nikon lenses and their results were pityful ... a simple rangefinder camera on auto would have done them just as well.

I mentioned here recently that a decade ago I met a fella with a Leica around his neck -where the camera was on 'auto'. As we chatted about camera + lenses he answered my Q about his choice with "I'm a retired dentist - I bought the best and most expensive because I can"

Over the many years that I have been running photo workshops, I have had far too many arrivals with a big-name dSLR plus kit lenses, who tell me during the workshop that they find it a hassle to change lenses - are there any better options? They often go away to swap the kit lenses for an 18-200 so they won't have the hassle of changing lenses. As a lover of superzoom / bridge cameras, I firmly believe that this group of weekend-photographers would have been better off in the first place with a good fixed-lens superzoom, rather than a dSLR + kit lenses ~ especially as 99% of their images are only viewed on the TV screen. What a waste of the APS sensor's abilities!

Phil from the great land Downunder
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3 months 1 week ago #676585 by fmw
A pro camera is any camera used by a pro.  An enthusiast camera is any camera used by an enthusiast.  It has nothing to do with the camera.  I don't use a D5 but I'll bet it can be  set up to operate like a point and shoot and should be able to make a decent shot of the grand kids in the hands of an enthusiast..


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3 months 1 week ago #676593 by BrokenCanon
The real question is, does an image or the camera or is the post processing of the image that makes one a "pro". So buying the most expedience camera doesn't make anyone a pro. More over the post processing or over processing seems to be the main draw these days. I try to do and use a minimal amount of equipment to achieve my images. So if it's because I use a Canon EOS M6, Fotodiox adapter & just 2 fixed lenses doesn't make be a pro, then I'll take that as a complement as I'd never want to known as a pro anyway. Just a person who uses what they have (even broken) or can afford in order to take interesting images. What I'm concerned with is the image quality of these smart phones which are taking away from mainstream photography. Photography just happens to be a hobby that has explored because everyone is or wants to be creative. if however they have been told they can make money doing this type of hobby, will learn the hard way. I entered this back in the late 60's with one thought, take pictures of what I feel I see and convey those feeling to others who view them.


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3 months 6 days ago #676620 by Baydream
Kind of like buying your 16 yr old a Corvette will probably not make him a better driver. 

Shoot, learn and share. It will make you a better photographer.
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3 months 6 days ago #676632 by Nikon Shooter
In 1969, I bought my dream guitar — a brand new Martin D-28.
This was my first chance to access a good instrument and I was
very proud for it. I spent more hours on it every day simply be-
cause it was stimulating me. With time, all that practicing paid
very well… I still own and play devoutly that guitar today.

If a better camera is as stimulating for an enthusiast, then be it.
Sure, there is always the "proud owners" but in the end, it is all
in the print.

Light is free… capturing it is not!
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3 months 6 days ago #676663 by effron

Baydream wrote: Kind of like buying your 16 yr old a Corvette will probably not make him a better driver. 


I've seen that, but rarely does someone die via a camera.

Why so serious?
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3 months 6 days ago #676672 by fmw
Another salient point is that there must be a difference between the results produced by a pro and an amateur.  The actual difference is that a pro has the experience and talent to get the required shot every time.  The amateur can experiment more..


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