Who would have rights over this?

4 years 2 weeks ago #678604 by Rudy Silvo
A situation I saw a couple weeks ago has me thinking.  If you were at a tourist landmark that has a model and fashion photographer who show up.  It's a public space, however the fashion photographer and model get busy on a impromptu photo shoot.  You there, or others take photos of the model with the landmark as primary point of interest.  Under these conditions, who has rights to their photos to share online or enter into publications?    


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4 years 2 weeks ago #678608 by effron
The shooter of the pic, with the model's permission. That's my guess.

Why so serious?
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4 years 2 weeks ago #678614 by Rudy Silvo

effron wrote: The shooter of the pic, with the model's permission. That's my guess.


Even in the public space, where they are interrupting the existing photos getting taken of that spot?


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4 years 2 weeks ago #678635 by fmw
Whoever looks through the viewfinder and fires the shutter owns the image.  In order to sell it, however, you will need a model release.


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4 years 2 weeks ago #678653 by garyrhook
In what country? It may matter...

In the US, in public, shoot away. And post to IG all you want. You don't need permission for that. Not even for art. Only for commercial purposes.


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4 years 2 weeks ago #678955 by Garbo
+1 True

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4 years 2 weeks ago #678989 by icepics
A park may/may not be public, but may be used by the general public, depends on who owns/manages the park. If it's a public park, usually park districts have rules about photography and either don't allow photo shoots by professionals (with models, tripods, etc.) or require the photographer to get a permit/permission. because it's using the park to conduct business.

Sometimes you just have to work around people, I learned how to do that years ago, and it's what I've often had to do shooting sports and events.

You need the model/subject's permission to use the photos for retail or commercial/business use. You could use the photo for editorial use, but this doesn't seem newsworthy enough for that purpose (newspapers, magazines). I suppose you could share/post the picture of someone set up doing a photoshoot at the park. I think it would be inappropriate to walk into someone else's shoot and start taking pictures of their model that they hired/contracted.

Sharon
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4 years 1 week ago #679260 by Remy Hedrick
It's like people shooting movie sets.  No difference.  


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4 years 1 week ago #679262 by Nikon Shooter

Remy Hedrick wrote: It's like people shooting movie sets.  No difference.  



Bingo!

Light is free… capturing it is not!
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4 years 1 week ago #679268 by icepics
I can see why someone may want to take a picture of a movie crew out on location, that could be interesting if you could get close enough (they film often enough in my area and it's usually cordoned off). But why would anyone want a picture of another photographer's photoshoot with a model? the model they hired/paid? What could you do with it? not much without the model's permission.

Sharon
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4 years 1 week ago #679376 by Carry
The photographer who brought the model there.  Simple.


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4 years 1 week ago #679393 by garyrhook

Carry wrote: The photographer who brought the model there.  Simple.


That is incorrect. Suggest you read the entire thread.


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