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Wide Angle - what lens do I need?


3 years 6 months ago #699106 by bigcougar
This summer I thought I would go and do a few hikes in the Yukon - Kluane park.

I saw this photo on the web and thought "Cool, I'll get up there and take my own version of it.".

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Not to waste your time with what the actual climb entailed and the weather conditions I encountered., all this was bearable.   The disappointment came when I got up there to find out my Canon 18-55 lens was nowhere near capturing the view.

My only consolation was the overall poor weather conditions that would have messed up the picture even if the lens was right.

So what would be your recommendations for a good landscape lens - light, inexpensive , producing good results.    In hiking weight is a factor and weather or accidental damage is always in the picture.

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3 years 6 months ago #699202 by db3348
Bigcougar,
Technically ,  just about any lens  is a good landscape lens ,  it  just depends on what particular landscape  and  how much of it  you  wish to capture  in one image .

From title of your question  I  presume  you're looking  for something  that can yield  a wider view than the 18 mm of your present lens can .

So anything shorter  than 18 mm  will give  a wider view .  There are plenty of them  out there .

And  are you aware  that  you can actually get a wider view with your 18 – 55 mm lens,  by shooting  a sequence of partly overlapping images  and  "stitching"  them together in post-processing .  This  is something  I do  quite often .  But  I don't know  if  this  would be practical on your current trip .  If  you can find  a perfectly level and stable rock  to rest  your camera on ,  it  might be worth a try .

Just food for thought .
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3 years 6 months ago #699220 by bigcougar
Thanks, this was my interpretation too.

Is there a EF-S pancake lens below 18mm that fits a Canon SL1 that will give me a wider view without stitching the pictures?

Is a pancake lens a good choice for landscapes? 

When I go hiking I carry the 18-55mm and I also carry a 55-250mm lens for wildlife.  The two together with the camera represent a fair bit of weight. Trying to cut down on weight if possible.

On a side note, I do not see the pictures I uploaded with my first post?  Is this a result of my free membership?    I can contribute with hundreds of landscape, wildlife and fish pictures, but paying at the same time is a little discouraging.
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3 years 6 months ago #699235 by Hassner
I do not know why your pics did not upload. 
It is not because of membership. 

I also would go for stitching photos. I use it in my work daily. 
A lot cheaper than a lens and so much more satisfying in the creation. 
Turn your camera vertical. Use your focus spots as pointers as to where to overlap or where you keep your horison. 
(Remember to shoot on manual exposure to keep all exposure the same.)
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3 years 6 months ago #699253 by Nikon Shooter
Your avatar is something big but it is not a cougar! :P
Light is free… capturing it is not!
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3 years 6 months ago #699322 by db3348
Bigcougar,

Here's a website  for you to check out showing what lenses are available for your SL1

Seems there's only 2 lenses  significantly wider than 18 mm ,  neither of which really fit the 'pancake' style description .

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/list/lenses/ef
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3 years 6 months ago #699329 by Scotty

bigcougar wrote: Thanks, this was my interpretation too.

Is there a EF-S pancake lens below 18mm that fits a Canon SL1 that will give me a wider view without stitching the pictures?

Is a pancake lens a good choice for landscapes? 

When I go hiking I carry the 18-55mm and I also carry a 55-250mm lens for wildlife.  The two together with the camera represent a fair bit of weight. Trying to cut down on weight if possible.

On a side note, I do not see the pictures I uploaded with my first post?  Is this a result of my free membership?    I can contribute with hundreds of landscape, wildlife and fish pictures, but paying at the same time is a little discouraging.


How did you upload your pics?
When the last candle has been blown out
and the last glass of champagne has been drunk
All that you are left with are the memories and the images-David Cooke.
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3 years 6 months ago #699352 by bigcougar
Thanks everyone.  So it looks like there are no small, light , cheap solutions to my conundrum.

My avatar is a cropped image from the 1997 Canadian grizzly postage stamp (denomination of $8).  |I| collect stamps.

OK, I will try to upload the pictures again - first one from the web, next two from my camera.  I may try to stitch them, but don't expect good results with my non-existent skills.








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3 years 6 months ago #699354 by bigcougar
No luck with stitching.  The two pictures were not taken from the very same spot.
It appears stitching will work when you have clear skies and stable weather.

In my case with the 80km/h winds and clouds flying around, no amount of stitching will help. :-)


Make: Canon
Model: Canon EOS REBEL SL1
Lens: EF-S18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM
ISO: 100
Aperture: f/10.0
Shutter speed: 1/100 sec
Captured: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:17am
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3 years 6 months ago #699361 by Hassner
1. Turn your camera vertical. 
2. Lens not too wide, 35-50mm on full frame, thus about 24mm-35mm for crop sensor.
(No tripod needed if you stick to a faster shutter speed.)
Take an exposure in the middle of your shot and set it on manual in your camera.
3. Choose one of your focus spots for your horison and keep your horison on it for every shot.
4. Look at the edge of your image, choose a landmark and only move the camera enough so a quarter or a fifth of the image will overlap with each shot.
5. On the wide lens I will stick to max 5-7 shots, on the 50mm I will even go to 9 shots. 
I might crop a lot of the sides afterwards for esthetics. 
I used a Canon stitch program at first, but I do it on Photoshop nowadays.
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3 years 6 months ago - 3 years 6 months ago #699362 by Nikon Shooter
If for web, a quick edit may restore your intention…

Make: Canon
Model: Canon EOS REBEL SL1
Lens: EF-S18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM
ISO: 100
Aperture: f/10.0
Shutter speed: 1/100 sec
Captured: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:17am
Light is free… capturing it is not!
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3 years 6 months ago #699399 by Crammer
If you haven't bought yet, don't forget to shop used markets.  You can find some really good deals out there. 

www.mpb.com and www.keh.com are a couple to start with
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