Why are DSLR lenses so big?

3 years 3 months ago #706166 by Dana Beasley
Help me understand this.  When you look at the photos an iPhone can take with its tiny set of lenses, why do our DSLR lenses need to be so big?  I get the flange needs to be large enough to cover the sensor.  Seems a bit overkill unless I'm missing something.  


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3 years 3 months ago #706167 by Nikon Shooter
Don't worry Dana, if there was a way… it would be done!

Given rules, laws in optics may require elaborate construction
designs and I have not mentioned the aperture size yet.

Light is free… capturing it is not!
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3 years 3 months ago #706171 by Piechura
I mean the simple answer is that the photos an iPhone takes with its tiny lenses is nowhere near as good (although the clever software trickery gets them somewhere close in a lot of situations).

I remember watching an interesting video about this a while back that pointed out that lenses that get the same results are usually roughly the same size regardless of the sensor size. So an APS-C f2.8 zoom will be about the same size as the full frame f4 zoom, but the results from both lenses will be pretty similar. For example, the Fujifilm 16-55 f2.8 is actually bigger and heavier than the Zeiss 24-70 f4, even though it's APS-C. Similarly Panasonic did a constant f1.7 zoom for the micro four-thirds system, and it's a monster, looking like a full frame lens even though it's got a bit of a reduced zoom range of 10-25mm (20-50mm full frame equivalent).


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3 years 3 months ago #706175 by Ozzie_Traveller
G'day Dana

A very good question - especially from a beginner :)

In very rough terms, the diameter of the glass bits need to be big enough to cover the diagonal size of the sensor. Surrounding the glass bits is the electronics for focussing and zooming, and surrounding this is the metal or plastic casing

Again in very rough terms, the front-to-back size of the lens is the focal length of the lens ... so for the average dSLR a 200mm lens for example needs to be somewhere about 200mm long

Phone-cameras are only about 5mm thick, and the phone-camera designers have some very smart tricks using mirrors or prisms to bend the image across the body of the phone to create greater magnification. The -but- is that the sensor must be very small to fit inside the phone, therefore the pixels are truely microscopic in size, and while the image looks beaut on the phone or tablet, if one was to print a phone image to say, 8" x 12" or larger, its sharpness and overall quality is questionable.

Hope this helps
Phil from the great land Downunder
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Phil from the great land Downunder
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3 years 3 months ago - 3 years 3 months ago #706303 by Ozzie_Traveller
G'day Dana

Just for you ...... :)

I have done a small experiment comparing the lens sharpness of my $99 - 3x zoom Olympus slip-in-the-pocket camera with my smart-fone camera (and I'd better not mention names here~ it will start a war of words) !!

Here is the original scene ... note the flag on the back of the boat


Here is the comparison between the $99 camera and the smart fone camera


Hope this helps
Phil from the great land Downunder
www.flickr.com/photos/ozzie_traveller/sets/

Phil from the great land Downunder
www.flickr.com/photos/ozzie_traveller/sets/

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3 years 2 months ago #708616 by TCav
Larger image sensors require larger optics for equivalent apertures and focal lengths.


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3 years 2 months ago #708707 by Ian Stone

Ozzie_Traveller wrote: G'day Dana

Just for you ...... :)

I have done a small experiment comparing the lens sharpness of my $99 - 3x zoom Olympus slip-in-the-pocket camera with my smart-fone camera (and I'd better not mention names here~ it will start a war of words) !!

Here is the original scene ... note the flag on the back of the boat



Here is the comparison between the $99 camera and the smart fone camera


Hope this helps
Phil from the great land Downunder
www.flickr.com/photos/ozzie_traveller/sets/



:agree:  dude, killer write up!


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3 years 2 months ago #709809 by Brody Kross
Makes appreciate more how these tiny camera sensors are able to do what they do!  


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