Can camera sensor get damaged from the sun?

1 year 6 months ago #744071 by Ivy Winchell
I have a wedding client who wants a silhouette shot with her and her bride maids.   The existing photo shoot is at 12:30pm, so during peak sunlight.  If I use the sun as my light source, would this damage my sensor?  


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1 year 6 months ago - 1 year 6 months ago #744072 by Razky

Ivy Winchell wrote: I have a wedding client who wants a silhouette shot with her and her bride maids. The existing photo shoot is at 12:30pm, so during peak sunlight. If I use the sun as my light source, would this damage my sensor?

The sun's going to be overhead so unless you're laying on your back shooting straight up, the answer is no.


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1 year 6 months ago - 1 year 6 months ago #744077 by TCav
For a silhouette, the subject must be backlit. At 12:30 pm, the Sun will be high in the sky, so you can't use it to backlight your subject.

If you did point your camera directly into the Sun, it would damage your camera, much like using a magnifying glass to focus sunlight onto a piece of paper would cause the paper to burn.

Given the time of day, I think it's unlikely that you'd be able to use direct sunlight to create the silhouette your client has requested, but there are other ways to do it that wouldn't endanger your camera.


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1 year 6 months ago #744257 by Carter Gledhill

TCav wrote: For a silhouette, the subject must be backlit. At 12:30 pm, the Sun will be high in the sky, so you can't use it to backlight your subject.

If you did point your camera directly into the Sun, it would damage your camera, much like using a magnifying glass to focus sunlight onto a piece of paper would cause the paper to burn.

Given the time of day, I think it's unlikely that you'd be able to use direct sunlight to create the silhouette your client has requested, but there are other ways to do it that wouldn't endanger your camera.



:agree:  good points


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1 year 6 months ago #744261 by Ozzie_Traveller
G'day Ivy

If you are worried about the sun damaging the sensor in any way - stop worrying :) ... If it did damage the sensor, there would be no sunset / sunrise photos showing the great ball of "hot sun-light".

Leaving a camera on the rear parcel shelf of the car, no cap on the camera lens, and the camera pointing upwards, there =may= be a remote possibility that the lens will focus the sun onto the shutter or sensor and cause some bleaching... but that is extremely remote and you are not silly enough to leave a camera there anyway

What is known to kill digital camera sensors is a flash from a laser beam inside a night club or stage performance. There are many descriptions of camera / phone damage from people who have been filming during say, a rock concert, where a laser has been bouncing off a rotating mirror ball in the roof, where that laser has swiped across the sensor and killed off a string of pixels

Hope this helps
Phil

Phil from the great land Downunder
www.flickr.com/photos/ozzie_traveller/sets/

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1 year 6 months ago #744316 by TCav

Ozzie_Traveller wrote: G'day Ivy

If you are worried about the sun damaging the sensor in any way - stop worrying :) ... If it did damage the sensor, there would be no sunset / sunrise photos showing the great ball of "hot sun-light".


See www.lensrentals.com/blog/2017/09/rental-...lar-eclipse-of-2017/


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1 year 6 months ago #744320 by Ozzie_Traveller

TCav wrote:

Ozzie_Traveller wrote: G'day Ivy

If you are worried about the sun damaging the sensor in any way - stop worrying :) ... If it did damage the sensor, there would be no sunset / sunrise photos showing the great ball of "hot sun-light".


See www.lensrentals.com/blog/2017/09/rental-...lar-eclipse-of-2017/


Thanks Tom - a very interesting article :)
I presume that those equipment failures stemmed from extended pointing / viewing directly into the sun, whilst my comment above is referring to us as photographers seeing a sunset / sunrise and doing the usual "point and shoot" operation.  Certainly over the 20-or so yrs that I have been shooting digital, I have enjoyed dozens and dozens of beaut sunset/sunrise shoots without experiencing any damage to my superzoom / bridge cameras with their lovely long-zoom lenses

Phil

Phil from the great land Downunder
www.flickr.com/photos/ozzie_traveller/sets/

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1 year 6 months ago - 1 year 6 months ago #744323 by TCav
Granted, but sunrises and sunsets are shot through a lot of atmosphere, which dims the sunlight substantially, as per the "Golden Hour". Shooting straight up at the midday Sun can damage a camera pretty quickly.


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1 year 6 months ago - 1 year 6 months ago #744324 by TCav
My gear:

Before Totality (with the solar filter in place):

Totality (without the solar filter):

No ill effects to the gear, as opposed to those featured in that blog post.


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1 year 6 months ago #744329 by miscat
If it's an SLR then the sensor is only exposed during the very short duration of the exposure. If it's mirrorless then quite possibly if the camera is fixed position.


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1 year 6 months ago #744339 by TCav

miscat wrote: If it's an SLR then the sensor is only exposed during the very short duration of the exposure. ...

Not if you're using 'Live View'.


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1 year 6 months ago #744349 by RIPbiker13
I'm not saying you won't damage the sensor but...

Welding arcs are brighter and hotter than the sun. I have a YouTube channel and have recorded several sunburns worth of welding footage and made videos. I never took precautions to prevent the sensor from being damage and it never was. I am am more careful with my FF mirrorless however.

I would think through normal use, it's not something the average person will ever have to worry about, but yes, they can be damaged if exposed to the harsh UV rays. It's not the UV that's really doing the damage, it's the focused heat from the UV radiation that melts the sensor.

I did not know about the laser causing damage. That's interesting and I'm certainly going to look more into that. 


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1 year 6 months ago #744364 by miscat
No, not if you're using live view!


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1 year 6 months ago #744365 by miscat
But you are using a solar filter there, which would not be suitable for a wedding.

Nice totality pic btw.

TC


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1 year 6 months ago #744366 by miscat
Glass is a good a good absorber or higher energy UV so the UV part of your arc will probably not be a problem. Being an arc, blue white there should be very little infrara red, very little heating effect on the sensor.

So all in all, from a physics point of view, arcs should not be very harmfl to sensors as your practical experience has confirmed.


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