Point system not working

7 years 10 months ago #179833 by geoffellis
The rating system for photos though is essentially useless for any photographer who posts. How can we trust that the rating is thoughtful and concise if we suspect that a majority of people who are rating them are doing so simply to raise their point count... in particular if there are prizes to do so.

Ratings should be provided by people who want to do it... not who those who are provided an incentive to do it. It would be better then to provide points based on how many photos they VIEW... not rate. that way they can still get their point count... and any submissions are rated fairly by people who wish to take the time to actually rate and comment. it would make little difference in the points system because the people who were rating for points are now just viewing the photos... they are still loading the same images. And the people that are rating the photos also get the same number of points...

anyways. thats just my opinion. i personally dont trust the rating on any photo here as being a consensus of the community. maybe im the only one... but that to me defeats the purpose of a rating system.
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7 years 10 months ago #179852 by robbie

geoffellis wrote: The rating system for photos though is essentially useless for any photographer who posts. How can we trust that the rating is thoughtful and concise if we suspect that a majority of people who are rating them are doing so simply to raise their point count... in particular if there are prizes to do so.

Ratings should be provided by people who want to do it... not who those who are provided an incentive to do it. It would be better then to provide points based on how many photos they VIEW... not rate. that way they can still get their point count... and any submissions are rated fairly by people who wish to take the time to actually rate and comment. it would make little difference in the points system because the people who were rating for points are now just viewing the photos... they are still loading the same images. And the people that are rating the photos also get the same number of points...

anyways. thats just my opinion. i personally dont trust the rating on any photo here as being a consensus of the community. maybe im the only one... but that to me defeats the purpose of a rating system.

:agree: :agree: :goodpost:
Agreed with you,there are certain top points leaders who just put whatever ratings they want to just on impluse,plus the copycats who follow with the indentical low ratings.I would like to see it made compulsory for any ratings of 3 and lower for a critique to be made.Personally I don`t like to rate images but if someone rates mine i`ll return the favor,if any images captures my fancy i`ll comment.


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7 years 10 months ago #179860 by Dori

robbie wrote:

geoffellis wrote: The rating system for photos though is essentially useless for any photographer who posts. How can we trust that the rating is thoughtful and concise if we suspect that a majority of people who are rating them are doing so simply to raise their point count... in particular if there are prizes to do so.

Ratings should be provided by people who want to do it... not who those who are provided an incentive to do it. It would be better then to provide points based on how many photos they VIEW... not rate. that way they can still get their point count... and any submissions are rated fairly by people who wish to take the time to actually rate and comment. it would make little difference in the points system because the people who were rating for points are now just viewing the photos... they are still loading the same images. And the people that are rating the photos also get the same number of points...

anyways. thats just my opinion. i personally dont trust the rating on any photo here as being a consensus of the community. maybe im the only one... but that to me defeats the purpose of a rating system.

:agree: :agree: :goodpost:
Agreed with you,there are certain top points leaders who just put whatever ratings they want to just on impluse,plus the copycats who follow with the indentical low ratings.I would like to see it made compulsory for any ratings of 3 and lower for a critique to be made.Personally I don`t like to rate images but if someone rates mine i`ll return the favor,if any images captures my fancy i`ll comment.

:agree:
I saw an instance where a persons photos were rated at 1. Possibly to increase point count.
Sad thing to see.

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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #179866 by PT Admin
If people were given points for every photo they viewed, then almost everyone would be stacking up points in the 6 digits by skimming through the photos . At least with the ratings system, they would need to spend more time (albeit a few seconds) rating or commenting. I do agree that not all ratings will be thoughtful or concise but it's still a rating based on one's opinion and their opinion certainly matters.

I do see the pros and cons of the Points System but overall, it IS an added value. The Points System is not just for rating photos... members can earn points for nearly all activity on the site whereas post counts can only be tracked in the forums. And prizes and incentives are given to the winners based on whatever contest we have going on at the moment.

For those who want to know how points are earned and what they are for, you can check out the "PT Points" tab on the homepage for more information. The site is a constant work-in-progress and this area may change from time to time to fit the ever changing needs of the community.

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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #179867 by icepics
I imagine people think the points are going to count toward something; that's probably why a lot of people rate photos just to get points. Comments/feedback on a photo seem more worthwhile than points. I sometimes look at someone's photos but don't rate them, it doesn't seem that meaningful.

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7 years 10 months ago #179869 by Dori

PT Admin wrote: If people were given points for every photo they viewed, then almost everyone would be stacking up points in the 6 digits by skimming through the photos . At least with the ratings system, they would need to spend more time (albeit a few seconds) rating or commenting. I do agree that not all ratings will be thoughtful or concise but it's still a rating based on one's opinion and their opinion certainly matters.

I do see the pros and cons of the Points System but overall, it IS an added value. The Points System is not just for rating photos... members can earn points for nearly all activity on the site whereas post counts can only be tracked in the forums. And prizes and incentives are given to the winners based on whatever contest we have going on at the moment.

For those who want to know how points are earned and what they are for, you can check out the "PT Points" tab on the homepage for more information. The site is a constant work-in-progress and this area may be changed from time to time to fit the ever changing needs of the community.

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7 years 10 months ago #179870 by effron

geoffellis wrote:
anyways. thats just my opinion. i personally dont trust the rating on any photo here as being a consensus of the community. maybe im the only one... but that to me defeats the purpose of a rating system.


You are not the only one......

Why so serious?
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7 years 8 months ago #197938 by _Colleen_
Well I am guessing there is no way to turn this feature off?? I had a troll following me in facebook, and has made his way here as well. I've blocked him, but in the mean time, the jerk, well HE's a JERK! lol

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7 years 8 months ago #197944 by Dori
I will alert the Bosses!
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7 years 8 months ago #198869 by Stealthy Ninja

_Colleen_ wrote: Well I am guessing there is no way to turn this feature off?? I had a troll following me in facebook, and has made his way here as well. I've blocked him, but in the mean time, the jerk, well HE's a JERK! lol


Genuine question: How is this related to the points system?

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7 years 7 months ago #207932 by _Colleen_
Sorry, guess I should have started that the troll was rating my photos to let me know he was here. I deleted those.

I seriously hate the rating system. I wish there was a way to turn it off. I feel people should at least comment on a photo they are rating instead of just clicking some random number.

I posted a few pictures, but I doubt I will post any more. Considering deleting the ones I have. If only I were not so darn lazy.... :lol:

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7 years 7 months ago #207946 by Karl Wertanen
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I understand the curiosity prompting the original post.... But this thread has just turned into silly mashed potatoes :silly:

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7 years 7 months ago #208007 by Baydream

_Colleen_ wrote: Sorry, guess I should have started that the troll was rating my photos to let me know he was here. I deleted those.

I seriously hate the rating system. I wish there was a way to turn it off. I feel people should at least comment on a photo they are rating instead of just clicking some random number.

I posted a few pictures, but I doubt I will post any more. Considering deleting the ones I have. If only I were not so darn lazy.... :lol:

Try marking them so that "friends" only can access your photos. "Your Photo Controls"/"User Settings". Then only those you have accepted as "friends" can see them.

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