At the Shops

12 years 7 months ago #146055 by Towcestermark


Does it work as a shot?


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12 years 7 months ago #146066 by Frisco
I like the color and the angle you used on this shot

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12 years 7 months ago - 12 years 7 months ago #146114 by MLKstudios
What I like most, is it has a hint of originality to it.

Amateurs "recreate" what they have seen before, and pros "create" something new (or different).

That's why WE get to break the rules. ;)

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12 years 7 months ago #146200 by John Landolfi
Not sure what you mean in this case, Matthew. To my eye, the elements in the dark area on upper left and the vertical are distracting, and vitiate the apparent purpose of the image. Or. does"apparent" mean I didn't understand its purpose? :unsure: Please, be gentle...:)


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12 years 7 months ago #146208 by icepics
You're getting some interesting perspective, to me it's a slice of life type image. If you keep at it you'll probably get shots that you know are what you're going for.

Sharon
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12 years 7 months ago #146221 by photobod
Sorry it doesnt work for me, to many distractions and doesnt seem to say anything. :S :S :S

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12 years 7 months ago - 12 years 7 months ago #146343 by MLKstudios
I didn't mean to imply it was a masterpiece. And I have seen similar POV's before.

What I meant was....

... he's doing something "non-standard". That's the direction of an artist. To break some rules!

:)

An example of looking at a normal thing differently:

instagr.am/p/N9M8i/

Seeing it as line, shape, color and texture only.

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12 years 7 months ago - 12 years 7 months ago #146344 by MLKstudios
Felt I should add more for the "deep" thinkers here...

We tend to look for something that we can file in a drawer in our mind. That landscape looks just like one I saw before, so it fits well into that drawer. I can file it away and go on.

Shot taken. Case closed!

However an artist is working through some stuff, and doesn't always have a drawer to file it in. He has to go back and do it over, and better the next time. And then again and again, until it says what he wants it to say.

It's a process, not a project.

Matthew :)

eta It's how Dada changed everything. It used to be an artist was someone who could draw or paint (or work well in some art medium). Now it's about making us think about something, and look at it in a new way.

Modern art does not include "happy trees". Well, it could I guess. B)

Matthew L Kees
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"Every artist, was once an amateur"

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12 years 7 months ago #146481 by John Landolfi
Umm.. Does it, perhaps, depend on whether there is an idea behind the image,whether the craftsman, through his striving to realize his idea, creates a structure that, whether perceived by an observer or not, still serves to support a critical analysis, whether the original idea is communicated or not? Then the question of the successful technical application of the medium is still open, and can be validly addressed, without questioning the idea itself.


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12 years 7 months ago - 12 years 7 months ago #146484 by MLKstudios
Yes! Excellent point, John.

Wait.. what? ;)

If an artist wants to make a picture of a tree, and successfully represents a tree, then the artist has succeeded at his craft. Correct?

If there was no other idea behind it, other than making a true and clear tree picture (even happy trees), is it still art?

I think is what you are saying. Did I get that right?

Matthew L Kees
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12 years 7 months ago #146491 by John Landolfi
I was actually trying to say more than that. If the artist wants to express an idea through his work, and uses the means of his choice to make his work, he creates a structure, a scaffolding, perhaps, which supports his idea and the observer tries to use to understand it through his analysis of the work. It may well be that the original idea is not actually communicated to every observer, but the aesthetic scaffolding provides material for constructing an interpretaton. Was El Greco using distortion to convey an idea, or did he simply have bad eyes? Was Van Gogh imagining astronomical ideas as yet unthought by science, or was he conveying an ecstatic expansion of vision? My point is that it's unimportant which interpretation, if any, is actually what the artist intended. What he provided engages our mind and emotions because what he created has validity beyond its message, whatever it may have been. But the technical means used are essential to approaching the work, and are a fair object of critique in themselves, especially when one thinks he sees what was meant.


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12 years 7 months ago - 12 years 7 months ago #146496 by MLKstudios
"My point is that it's unimportant which interpretation, if any, is actually what the artist intended. What he provided engages our mind and emotions because what he created has validity beyond its message, whatever it may have been."

If I get what you mean, the art has value simply by being well crafted. It can connect to everyone with different "messages", whether it was the original intent, or not.

A similar argument goes to back to whether beauty is an absolute. Or is it seen in the eye of the beholder. I don't know the answer to that. It's still being argued among artists and art historians, and I expect it will continue to be.

:)

eta This is the piece Duchamp exhibited at MOMA that changed forever the direction of "modern" art:

www.sfmoma.org/explore/collection/artwork/25853

No longer was intent a part of the craft (its execution), instead it was applied to the work, through imagination (and suggestion). As seen in "found art" -- like the fountain.

It gave rise to the constant question you hear often in modern art museums today. Why is THAT art? Or, my 5 year old could've done that!

While the impressionists weren't well received at first, the subjects they used are recognizable as something traditionally art worthy -- i.e. landscapes, portraits, still lifes, and of course, sunflowers. Most will agree they have artistic merit today.

Dadaism changed that. And while I agree some of it is reachable due to its structure (or form). It isn't "traditional" enough for everyone to grasp.

Hope you don't mind we borrowed your thread, Tow. :)

Matthew L Kees
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"Every artist, was once an amateur"

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12 years 7 months ago #146542 by Towcestermark
Thank you for your feedback everyone, the lighting in the shop (Tommy Hilfigger, Georgetown, Washington DC) is true, and it was taken on the spur of moment, so more of a street shot than a set up.

I kinda like it, straight out of the camera, no editing - of a slice of life


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12 years 7 months ago #146549 by Towcestermark


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12 years 7 months ago #146555 by ClickAPic
I like it because it makes people think about what it is trying to say,as shown by the replies. The color is vibrant and I like the busy clerk in the shot.
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