Best amateur picture quality for under $300?

12 years 4 months ago - 12 years 4 months ago #184453 by Halzen
Hey guys. I've been shopping around a lot for the last couple of weeks, and I'm not really getting anywhere.

Things I NEED in a camera:
- Sharp and clear pictures, day or night.
- No graininess in images. I hate that.
- A zoom that doesn't shake more than expected.
- Decent video recording at 720p or higher.

Things I would LIKE in a camera (not required):
- A flash that won't wash out portraits in very low light
- A viewfinder
- Good motion capture

Things I DON'T NEED (as in don't really care about):
- Lightweight or slim body. I plan on stashing it in a backpack or messenger bag.
- Crazy good battery life. I plan on carrying spare batteries at all times.
- A crazy long zoom. 12x is more than enough.

My ideal budget is $200-250, but I can stretch to $300 for the right camera. Any ideas would be extremely helpful and appreciated.


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12 years 4 months ago #184460 by KCook
If it has to be new, the best IQ under $300 right now is the Nikon P7000, which is only 7X zoom. If a used camera is Ok, the Canon S95 also fits this price, zoom is 3.8X.

Kelly Cook

Canon 50D, Olympus PL2
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12 years 4 months ago #184461 by geoffellis
I would say go back to bed... and keep dreaming.
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12 years 4 months ago #184466 by Halzen

geoffellis wrote: I would say go back to bed... and keep dreaming.


At least once a day I run into some ignorant and pretentious snob like you. Do you honestly believe that the crap you lazily spew is contributing to the community in any way? I'm sure your professional camera setup makes you king of the hipster world, but there are a lot of real people (like myself) that don't give a damn. Your insufferably close-minded response is nothing more than a waste of bandwidth. Kindly piss off.


Back to our regularly scheduled posting.

KCook wrote: If it has to be new, the best IQ under $300 right now is the Nikon P7000, which is only 7X zoom. If a used camera is Ok, the Canon S95 also fits this price, zoom is 3.8X.

Kelly Cook


I scrolled by the P7k earlier, but on your referral I took a closer look. Amazon has some beautiful customer pictures taken with it! Definitely adding it to my top list. Thanks for the recommendation. :)


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12 years 4 months ago #184473 by KCook
Lots more thoughts by a P7000 owner on another site -

www.boatingabc.com/forums/ubbthreads.php...0_on_sale_today.html

Kelly

Canon 50D, Olympus PL2
kellycook.zenfolio.com/

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12 years 4 months ago - 12 years 4 months ago #184481 by geoffellis

Halzen wrote:

geoffellis wrote: I would say go back to bed... and keep dreaming.


At least once a day I run into some ignorant and pretentious snob like you. Do you honestly believe that the crap you lazily spew is contributing to the community in any way? I'm sure your professional camera setup makes you king of the hipster world, but there are a lot of real people (like myself) that don't give a damn. Your insufferably close-minded response is nothing more than a waste of bandwidth. Kindly piss off.


Pretentious snob... perhaps... I dont care. others can decide for themselves. but ignorant definitely I am not. That fits your bill though. You obviously havent done much research into photography.

"Sharp and Clear pictures day or night". Hello... a camera captures an exposure using LIGHT. The lack of light at NIGHT makes this an issue. The solution is often higher ISO or slower shutter speeds... but slower shutter speeds are more likely to cause blur... and ISO causes "graininess". Which leads to requirement #2... "No Graininess".

So.... your first 2 requirements defy reality... Some may be better at it than others... but strictly speaking... keep dreaming. Im not even going to waste my time with your other do's and dont's.

the P7000 is no doubt one of the best youre gonna find for your budget... but that doesnt mean its gonna even come close to your expectations. Heck I dont think any camera will. at 250$ you shouldnt be expecting that much anyways. 100-250$ is like an entry level p+s range. Some will have certain features that excel, others that lack. At that price point you gotta find *realistic* requirements and then decide which camera fits *most* of them.

but ya know... based on your on your first 2 posts here... i wonder if all these ignorant people you meet on a daily basis... are really the ignorant ones :thumbsup:
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12 years 3 months ago #184612 by Baydream
I would like add my 2 cents. with the understanding that many are on a very tight budget. You may not get everything you want but close enought to improve your options. While I shoot Canons (XT, XTi and now 60D for DSLR, I really like Panasonics for point and shoot models. That's what I carry and they seem to stay near the top in value and reduces shutter delay.
Take a look at this model. It's in your budget and gets good reviews. Good luck and welcome to PT.

www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/752060-RE..._Digital_Camera.html

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12 years 3 months ago #184620 by Halzen
The P7000 is starting to look like my top choice. Currently, it's running alongside the Olympus PEN E-PL1, which might be more camera than I need. Thanks for the suggestions, everyone. :)


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12 years 3 months ago #184623 by Screamin Scott
While a bit brusque in his answer, geoffellis is pretty much right. You will be limited to point & shoot models & even then they may not satisfy you...Some of your requirements are entirely controllable by you as the photographer to a degree, but require a well rounder understanding of the camera & it's limitations as well as optical principles....You might find an older, used DSLR more suitable to what you are looking for, but then you need lenses & the cost goes up again...Use of a tripod will help ensure sharp shots...

Scott Ditzel Photography

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12 years 3 months ago #184626 by Rob pix4u2
The Nikon P7000 will get you started on your way in photography but as has been said a DSLR will more than likely be an option that better meets your requirements. Nikon D90 for example can be found used and in good shape , check KEH and B&H ( site sponsors at the bottom of the page) and you may be able to find a used DSLR that fits your requirements as well.

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12 years 3 months ago #184632 by KCook

Halzen wrote: The P7000 is starting to look like my top choice. Currently, it's running alongside the Olympus PEN E-PL1, which might be more camera than I need. Thanks for the suggestions, everyone. :)

For the same price as a new Oly E-PL1 you can usually find used (not new) Canon Rebel and Nikon D40/60 DSLR models.

Kelly

Canon 50D, Olympus PL2
kellycook.zenfolio.com/

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12 years 3 months ago #184654 by Halzen
I considered getting a used DSLR, but the cost will outweigh the benefits at this time. The camera body alone is likely to push my budget, and then I'm buying lenses, filters, tripods, and bags to get the most out of it. The P7000 can be had with a bag and screen protectors for about $250, and extending its use with lenses, filters, and tripods will be cheaper than a full-size body. Down the road I definitely hope to drop a couple grand on a DSLR setup that I can really get into. For the time being, I believe this will do.


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12 years 3 months ago #184694 by KCook
The lens on the P7000 is fixed to the body. Not interchangeable. So filters and extra lenses are out of the equation entirely. If filters are important to you, then get a DSLR (or Micro4/3) instead. DSLR cameras do not require a tripod any more than a point-and-shoot does. However they do weigh a little more, so need a little beefier tripod.

Kelly

Canon 50D, Olympus PL2
kellycook.zenfolio.com/

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12 years 3 months ago #184793 by Halzen

KCook wrote: The lens on the P7000 is fixed to the body. Not interchangeable. So filters and extra lenses are out of the equation entirely.


Well, I know it's not the most ideal solution, but Nikon has made adapters available for the P7000 to take certain lenses and filters. You can get a decent kit for about $60-80. I wouldn't rely heavily on them; it's just a variety thing, I guess.

It also looks like firmware updates dramatically improved the P7000's responsiveness, especially when it comes to RAW processing (something I've never bothered trying before). So far, winner winner. :P


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