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12 years 9 months ago #108493 by anothershot
When I try and take photos of some fruit (bananas, grapefruits ect) the photo it too bright. If I turn the flash off the photos are too dark and blurry. What am I doing wrong?
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12 years 9 months ago #108499 by MLKstudios
There are MANY ways to photograph fruit. It doesn't move, so you can use a tripod -- and get it brighter. Don't use the flash. Use window light.

Set it up like an oil painting.

Matthew

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12 years 9 months ago - 12 years 9 months ago #108511 by photobod
Maybe you are using bare flash this will cause awful highlights, try diffusing it or as Matthew has suggested try window light with a larger iso, wide open lens and adjust your speed to suit.
Dont forget to show us your results.
Have attached a couple of examples the first one is with window light iso800-1/[email protected]
The 2nd one is with a diffused flash, its actually my small home made softbox, iso200-1/[email protected]
please excuse the quality I was being quick so a little out of focus.



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12 years 9 months ago #108525 by MLKstudios
Why use a high ISO with a tripod? With a tripod and a static subject, she can use ANY shutter speed necessary.

Matthew

Matthew L Kees
MLK Studios Photography School
www.MLKstudios.com
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"Every artist, was once an amateur"

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12 years 9 months ago #108527 by photobod

MLKstudios wrote: Why use a high ISO with a tripod? With a tripod and a static subject, she can use ANY shutter speed necessary.

Matthew


You are the only one to mention a tripod Matthew so are you talking to yourself, mine are handheld and Anothershot hasnt mentioned using a tripod iether ?????

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"A good photograph is one that communicate a fact, touches the heart, leaves the viewer a changed person for having seen it. It is, in a word, effective." - Irving Penn

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12 years 9 months ago - 12 years 9 months ago #108532 by MLKstudios
I didn't say..

"Matthew has suggested try window light with a larger iso, wide open lens and adjust your speed to suit."

I said, use a tripod.

All styles of photography require different "tools" to do them properly. For "still lifes" a tripod is the correct tool to use. That allows her to use a low ISO, maximize the DOF (if she wants to) and concentrate on the lighting and composition.

:)

Matthew L Kees
MLK Studios Photography School
www.MLKstudios.com
[email protected]
"Every artist, was once an amateur"

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12 years 9 months ago #108594 by photobod

MLKstudios wrote: I didn't say..

"Matthew has suggested try window light with a larger iso, wide open lens and adjust your speed to suit."

I said, use a tripod.

All styles of photography require different "tools" to do them properly. For "still lifes" a tripod is the correct tool to use. That allows her to use a low ISO, maximize the DOF (if she wants to) and concentrate on the lighting and composition.

:)


Two sides to every argument Matthew
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :toocrazy: :toocrazy: :toocrazy:

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12 years 9 months ago #108618 by photobod
To clarify a point dear members: "Matthew has suggested try window light with a larger iso, wide open lens and adjust your speed to suit." Mathew did suggest use window light the rest of the sentence "with a larger iso, wide open lens and adjust your speed to suit" was my advice, my advice was meant as a handheld option Matthews was meant as a tripod option, hope i didnt confuse anyone. I have colour coded to clarify.

www.dcimages.org.uk
"A good photograph is one that communicate a fact, touches the heart, leaves the viewer a changed person for having seen it. It is, in a word, effective." - Irving Penn

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12 years 9 months ago #108624 by MLKstudios
Thank you David. I just don't want people to misunderstand what I said.

Also, an on camera flash is the WRONG tool to use.

In this situation you want to see the 3rd dimension clearly. Flat lighting works against you. Window light is the best light for a beginner.

Matthew

Matthew L Kees
MLK Studios Photography School
www.MLKstudios.com
[email protected]
"Every artist, was once an amateur"

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12 years 9 months ago #108627 by photobod

MLKstudios wrote: Thank you David. I just don't want people to misunderstand what I said.

Also, an on camera flash is the WRONG tool to use.

In this situation you want to see the 3rd dimension clearly. Flat lighting works against you. Window light is the best light for a beginner.

Matthew


the post was not for your benefit Matthew so no need to thank me, and as you are wrong again I will put you right, the flash I used was not on camera, nor did I advise or would advise anyone to use on camera flash under certain circumstances, although under some circumstances it is fine as you will see in a recent macro video on this forum where the pro photographer uses an on camera flash with a homemade softbox on it, with absolutely brilliant results, perhaps because you think you are always right you should get in touch with this guy and put him right, although the reply you may recieve wouldnt be a kind one I am sure.

www.dcimages.org.uk
"A good photograph is one that communicate a fact, touches the heart, leaves the viewer a changed person for having seen it. It is, in a word, effective." - Irving Penn

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12 years 9 months ago - 12 years 9 months ago #108648 by MLKstudios
Off camera flash is fine. But I doubt seriously she has that ability yet. And I'm not a "results are all that matter" teacher. I find the learning process to be very important to nurturing someone into our profession.

Using a flash is about making two combined exposures at once. It would only complicate her goal here. I try to keep things simple.

Matthew :)

Matthew L Kees
MLK Studios Photography School
www.MLKstudios.com
[email protected]
"Every artist, was once an amateur"

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12 years 9 months ago - 12 years 9 months ago #108743 by MLKstudios
Sorry David for the volley awhile back. I'm not here to shove others aside or push my way through as the only way.

It's obvious from the OP's question that she is an absolute beginner (no matter how long she's owned a camera). That's fine. We all start somewhere.

She mentions not knowing how to get a proper exposure in low light and/or how to use her flash (the pop-up, I would guess).

She likely doesn't own a tripod OR an off camera flash. But her question lead me to believe she could manage using a tripod (maybe by borrowing or renting one) and get more than acceptable results.

When you say use an off camera flash, that's opening a BIG can of worms. Are you going to explain the different flash modes and what all the buttons on the back are for? It's TWO exposures, two pieces of "kit" and she hasn't yet learned one.

So, my answer was based on what I thought she would be ABLE to accomplish. And maybe even learn something doing so. A tripod (using window light) is a much simpler tool to learn than strobes (which flash is but a miniature version of). You simply attach the camera to the top and point it. It's rather intuitive to use.

If later she wants to use a shallow DOF and handhold a high ISO (for whatever reason), she can feel free to experiment. But I don't think it's a good "push" to give someone who is here to learn.

Agreed?

Matthew :)

Matthew L Kees
MLK Studios Photography School
www.MLKstudios.com
[email protected]
"Every artist, was once an amateur"

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12 years 9 months ago #108750 by photobod
In at the deep end is my philophosy Matthew, we learn by making mistakes thats why I am so wise :rofl: We think differently thats all, there isnt a problem with that, its what makes the world go around, dont forget many of the great inventions of all times were made or discovered by people diving into things head first and making mistakes only to find they had found something interesting.

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