Abstract fence

12 years 7 months ago - 12 years 7 months ago #145707 by MLKstudios
I've been using it for a long time, with Nikon cameras. Honestly. It works. If you know how to use it.

:)

btw I have read that article by Luminous Lanscape on ETTR, when it was first posted.

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12 years 7 months ago - 12 years 7 months ago #145711 by Stealthy Ninja

MLKstudios wrote: I've been using it for a long time, with Nikon cameras. Honestly. It works.

:)


Not in my experience. When you try and pull back nikon highlights you get strange lines around the images that you don't get with Canon.

Plus Nikon has a slight bias towards the darks. It's not a lot, but it's there.

ETTR only works if you're still within the highlights range. IF you go beyond it, you'll mess up the edges of your overblown images.
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12 years 7 months ago - 12 years 7 months ago #145712 by MLKstudios
Why would you need to pull back? The idea is to bump the right edge as high as it will go without having to rescue the highlights. Give it the maximum possible exposure and maintain details.

No?

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"Every artist, was once an amateur"

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12 years 7 months ago #145715 by Stealthy Ninja
Yeh but you can go beyond what the histogram says and pull it back, that's what's gonna happen when you ETTR. Because you're going higher than the histograms max. Or else it's not ETTR it's just good exposure.

With Nikon it's easier to go beyond the DR of the camera.
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12 years 7 months ago #145717 by Stealthy Ninja
And my point is that when you go beyond the histogram with Nikon you get strange lines around the images when you pull it back. Which is why ETTR isn't as good when you use it on Nikon.

Unless you can be sure not to go beyond the DR that the camera can handle.
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12 years 7 months ago - 12 years 7 months ago #145721 by MLKstudios

Stealthy Ninja wrote: Yeh but you can go beyond what the histogram says and pull it back, that's what's gonna happen when you ETTR. Because you're going higher than the histograms max. Or else it's not ETTR it's just good exposure.

With Nikon it's easier to go beyond the DR of the camera.

ETTR is good exposure. By it's own definition. It is the best possible exposure you can give a digital sensor. Pushing your highlights to the very edge (without going over).

And no, it isn't about bringing the highlights down in post. It's about maximizing data on the memory card.

I think you've read some bad ETTR sites. There really is a lot of bad info out there. Be careful what you read. It isn't all true.

BTW I'm in :duel: mode, because you called me a "spammer".

I'm the sensitive "artist" type. :)

Matthew L Kees
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"Every artist, was once an amateur"

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12 years 7 months ago #145724 by Stealthy Ninja

MLKstudios wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote: Yeh but you can go beyond what the histogram says and pull it back, that's what's gonna happen when you ETTR. Because you're going higher than the histograms max. Or else it's not ETTR it's just good exposure.

With Nikon it's easier to go beyond the DR of the camera.

ETTR is good exposure. By it's own definition. It is the best possible exposure you can give a digital sensor. Pushing your highlights to the very edge (without going over).

And no, it isn't about bringing the highlights down in post. It's about maximizing data on the memory card.

I think you've read some bad ETTR sites. There really is a lot of bad info out there. Be careful what you read. It isn't all true.

BTW I'm in :duel: mode, because you called me a "spammer". ;)


I know what it is. It's going way beyond the edge of the histogram where you can't tell what's going on, so the highlights get blown all the time and when you try to recover you get weird lines around the images on Nikon.
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12 years 7 months ago - 12 years 7 months ago #145725 by MLKstudios
There are times it applies, and other times when it doesn't. The point I was HOPING to make here, is to know when to use it, and when not to.

Something to help the n00bs.

That's all. I wasn't attempting a "spam". :)

Matthew L Kees
MLK Studios Photography School
www.MLKstudios.com
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"Every artist, was once an amateur"

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12 years 7 months ago - 12 years 7 months ago #145727 by Stealthy Ninja
Oh so post it on a noobs thread then.

No need to spam here.
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12 years 7 months ago - 12 years 7 months ago #145728 by Scotty
I love how powerful my fence picture is.

It's like the monolith at the start of 2001: A Space Odyssey.

When the last candle has been blown out
and the last glass of champagne has been drunk
All that you are left with are the memories and the images-David Cooke.

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12 years 7 months ago #145729 by Stealthy Ninja
What's a 2001: Space Odyssey?
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12 years 7 months ago #145730 by Stealthy Ninja
This thread:
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12 years 7 months ago - 12 years 7 months ago #145731 by MLKstudios
I saw Scotty's wonderful Abstract Fence (err monolith) as a chance to point out something of value.

Sorry, I didn't pay attention to the area it was posted in.

My bad. :)

Matthew L Kees
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"Every artist, was once an amateur"

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12 years 7 months ago #145732 by Scotty

MLKstudios wrote: I saw Scotty's wonderful fence (err monolith) as a chance to point out something of value.

Sorry, I didn't pay attention to the area it was posted in.

My bad. :)


No soup for you.

When the last candle has been blown out
and the last glass of champagne has been drunk
All that you are left with are the memories and the images-David Cooke.

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12 years 7 months ago #145733 by MLKstudios
:(

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