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13 years 2 months ago #26318 by Street Shark
Anyone compare the VR to the VRII lens? How much difference is there from one lens to another? Rule of thumb how many stops will the VRII system help with? I thought I heard you could shoot hand held 2 additional stops?
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13 years 2 months ago #26442 by Soldier Boy
The VRII is suppose to give better clarity and sharpness with less vignetting. From what I've heard the the VRII is a night and day difference from a vibration reduction stand point, that the new VRII is able to shoot at MUCH lower shutter speeds than the older 70-200mm.

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13 years 2 months ago #26546 by Stealthy Ninja

Soldier Boy wrote: The VRII is suppose to give better clarity and sharpness with less vignetting. From what I've heard the the VRII is a night and day difference from a vibration reduction stand point, that the new VRII is able to shoot at MUCH lower shutter speeds than the older 70-200mm.

Hope this helps


VR has nothing to do with vignetting. That's lens/hood design.

VR gives you 3 stops of VR
VR II gives you 4 stops of VR

It works like this. Say you want to shoot something at 200mm (on an FX/FF camera) then you'd want at least 1/200 (the rule for getting rid of hand shake is about 1/focal length).

So therefore, you could shoot at 200mm at 1/25 with the VR (one) and get the same hand-hold-ability as shooting 1/200 without it. You could shoot at 1/12.5 with VRII and get the same hand-hold-ability as shooting 1/200.

HOWEVER VR will NOT stop subject movement, it;s just for stopping your hand shake.

www.nikon.com/about/technology/core/software/vr_e/index.htm
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13 years 2 months ago #26975 by Joves
Also VR is not fool proof. My 80-400 is VR but I really only use Mode1 VR or when the photo is shot. I never use Mode2 or full time, I dont get as many keepers with it. Also Mode2 sucks battery juice faster. Both versions of VR work great, I just think they are putting VR on lenses that dont need it. Just my opinon BTW.
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13 years 2 months ago - 13 years 2 months ago #29319 by arkady001

Stealthy Ninja wrote: VR has nothing to do with vignetting. That's lens/hood design.


Generally speaking you're right - but with the 70-200 f/2.8 VR lenses it's more to do with the VR-I being optimised for DX bodies.
I used one on my D2x and later with D3/D3x when we upgraded and the vignetting on the FX body was noticable but not significant enough to warrant a replacement for that reason alone.
I now have the VR-II version and much prefer it (not because of the vignetting issue being rectified) as it reminds me in general 'feel' to my old 80-200 f/2.8.

I haven't noticed any significant difference in the newer VR-II in terms of its hand-holding/low shutter speed capability, but it's a lot quieter and faster-focusssing in low light conditions compared to the older model and for those reasons alone it's worth buying unless you're on a tight budget.
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13 years 2 months ago #29327 by Stealthy Ninja

arkady001 wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote: VR has nothing to do with vignetting. That's lens/hood design.


Generally speaking you're right - but with the 70-200 f/2.8 VR lenses it's more to do with the VR-I being optimised for DX bodies.
I used one on my D2x and later with D3/D3x when we upgraded and the vignetting on the FX body was noticable but not significant enough to warrant a replacement for that reason alone.
I now have the VR-II version and much prefer it (not because of the vignetting issue being rectified) as it reminds me in general 'feel' to my old 80-200 f/2.8.

I haven't noticed any significant difference in the newer VR-II in terms of its hand-holding/low shutter speed capability, but it's a lot quieter and faster-focusssing in low light conditions compared to the older model and for those reasons alone it's worth buying unless you're on a tight budget.


K so that's lens design. I should have added that in there.

If a lens is made mainly for DX then it's gonna vignette because it's not meant to cover the bigger sensor. And some lenses will JUST cover the FX/FF sensor so they'll get some vignetting.
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