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12 years 8 months ago #136925 by Sm3d5
A friend of mine tells me she is a "creative director" at a photography studio. I wasn't familiar with the job title and she said she tells the model how to pose and changes the lighting.

I told her that to me, being a photographer means you do all of that already. I don't want to be there just to click a shutter. Anyone can do that. I don't like the idea of someone changing my lighting on me without telling me. She then got mad at me because I was "insulting her job" I was simply trying to say that I can do that stuff already and that being a photographer was more than pressing the shutter button. I feel like her job title strips the photographer of any artistic liscense.

Anyone agree with me? What do you think?


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12 years 8 months ago - 12 years 8 months ago #136928 by MLKstudios
When you start out, you are probably doing everything yourself. If you're Annie Liebowitz, she has two trucks full of gear and a team of "grips" to move things around, a makeup artist, a stylist, a creative director and others (depending on what is required).

At that level it is more like directing a movie, and getting everyone to cooperate. It's a big production.

Yes, you may only be "pushing the button" in the end, but you also made that image happen in the first place.

Matthew

Note too, that a lot of that can be for show. To justify your high cost. I know that Annie sometimes ends up using natural light.

However, when you look at her three page spreads. You can see that each person is lit individually. They may share a light, but they are posed to take advantage of it. She's that good! And it takes a lot of people working together to make that happen.

Matthew L Kees
MLK Studios Photography School
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"Every artist, was once an amateur"

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12 years 8 months ago #136954 by Luis 1956
I think for most photographers, they should be able to do it all. But when you make it big and can actually afford other people to "help" out, then why not hire those people?


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12 years 8 months ago #136963 by effron
My thought: Why do you even care what she thinks?

Why so serious?
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12 years 8 months ago #136970 by Sm3d5

effron wrote: My thought: Why do you even care what she thinks?


This isn't about me caring about what she thinks...because I don't. This is about, why would a photographer need someone to do the job the photographer can handle.


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12 years 8 months ago #136984 by photobod
At the moment I do it all myself, but if I had the budget I would probably hire some help in, you will probs find this girl is just an assistant and will be doing what the photographer asks her to do as will all the others, at the end of the day the photographer is in charge. :banana: :banana: :banana:

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"A good photograph is one that communicate a fact, touches the heart, leaves the viewer a changed person for having seen it. It is, in a word, effective." - Irving Penn

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12 years 8 months ago #137014 by KCook

Sm3d5 wrote:

effron wrote: My thought: Why do you even care what she thinks?


This isn't about me caring about what she thinks...because I don't. This is about, why would a photographer need someone to do the job the photographer can handle.

Good grief, this is not that complicated! The photographer knows what the photographer wants. The creative director knows what the client wants. In another life I'd rather be a creative director. But that is just not one of my talents.

different strokes for different folks.

Canon 50D, Olympus PL2
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12 years 8 months ago #137097 by Joves

KCook wrote:

Sm3d5 wrote:

effron wrote: My thought: Why do you even care what she thinks?


This isn't about me caring about what she thinks...because I don't. This is about, why would a photographer need someone to do the job the photographer can handle.

Good grief, this is not that complicated! The photographer knows what the photographer wants. The creative director knows what the client wants. In another life I'd rather be a creative director. But that is just not one of my talents.

different strokes for different folks.

Well the CD as Mr Cook has pointed out is working for the client. Though I tend to find I can understand what people want. Personally I am glad that I only do this for fun. :P


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12 years 8 months ago #137110 by icepics
'Hit the nail on the head' Kelly.

Wouldn't the creative director and the photographer(s) be working together on setting up for shots? If you're working at that level... My 'pro' experience has been roaming around hockey rinks.

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