Against law to take photos inside a mall?

12 years 6 months ago #164475 by Joves
I will also add that this includes the Mall's parking lot. Now here is the rub if there is a public sidewalk around that parking lot you can shoot from there into the lot.


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12 years 6 months ago #164605 by Stealthy Ninja

geoffellis wrote: It was a high volume restaurant in a not so great part of town. commonly dealt with drunks,homeless and people with mental issues.

Im not saying i got into physical confrontations every night though lol... but even if you average 1 incident every 1-2 months... it still works out to as little as 50 during my tenure , and as much as 100. And again these range from small incidents where a guy shoved me because i refused to serve him... to fights that ended up with assaults and weapons charges lol... and everything in between. And im not exactly looking for a fight either... i just wont put up with anyone out of line

Like one incident... my cleaning staff came and told me that a patron was harassing them. well, im not going to kick someone out on that alone. I need a reason. So i went out and sat and watched from a distance. suddenly while one of the cleaning staff was walking by this customer, the customer jumps at him, grabs his mop, and starts chasing him with it. well, I grabbed him, put him in a headlock, dragged him to the nearest exit, and to no exaggeration i threw him out the door. he cut his hand on the stone walkway outside. he called the police and asked them to charge me with assault. the police literally phoned me up. told me this, and asked me what happened. I told them, they asked me for a description and wanted to know if i wanted to press charges. I said no. They told me they had a patrol car in the area and would keep an eye out for him. remember, he called the police, not I.

another, a woman was literally harassing customers, she came in...asking people for money, then literally picked up a guys touchscreen notebook ($$$) and started looking it over... she was not sober and i think the guy was nearly about to deck her... so i told her to leave, she was refusing, so i literally grabbed her by the arm and pulled her from the building, during which she was threatening to shoot me, etc. anyways when we got outside 3 of her male friends waiting outside decided to take a crack at me. anyways it only took 1 bloody nose for them to decide it wasnt worth it lol

ironically if it was a bar, theyd have beefy security guards. As we were a non-alcoholic serving restaurant the owner deemed it too costly to hire security for stuff that /might/ happen like i said once every 1-2 months. And personally, i consider "security" companies here to be a joke anyways. 4000$ for a scrawny guy (or girl) that is primarily trained to take notes and resolve conflict and phone the police LOL they arent even allowed to carry mace.

I have plenty of other stories... i just wanted to be clear that i wasnt exactly out looking for fights haha - but at the same time i have the confidence and experience to take care of myself. i have never been hurt in any confrontation whatsoever, at or outside of work. atleast no more than a few scrapes here and there lol i should also mention though that guns are not really an issue. difficult for the average punk losers to come by. the most dangerous weapons ive encountered are knives. usually kitchen knives LOL- on the upside... i have never had a robbery, armed or otherwise. but thankfully that aspect of my life is over for now

Now im just an unemployed traveller haha


Awesome stories. You should consider writing a book, you have a way of keeping attention (I don't usually read posts that long, but I couldn't stop reading.

DO you mind me asking where you lived before?
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12 years 6 months ago #164663 by Farestad
Funny how 30 other point and shoot camera owners didn't get approached and the person with the DSLR get's the boot :rofl:

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12 years 6 months ago #164672 by geoffellis

Stealthy Ninja wrote: Awesome stories. You should consider writing a book, you have a way of keeping attention (I don't usually read posts that long, but I couldn't stop reading.

DO you mind me asking where you lived before?


While i probably have enough material to write a book of short stories... i think an editor would scoff at my use of ellipsis and LOL as replacements for proper grammar haha. nor do i foresee much of an interest in short stories about a guy getting into fights?? heh

As for location... these particular events took place in the Vancouver Region of BC, Canada. Its ironic though... despite being a huge city I actually felt safer in Vancouver despite all that. I never once had a confrontation with someone outside of my place of employment. Before moving to Vancouver however, I lived in rural areas... and it seemed like i was constantly getting "jumped" by groups of stupid "young adults" that i didnt even know (ie it wasnt personal). i must look like an easy target. or maybe its just group mentality. my personal theory though is that the larger the group coming at you, the less likely any one individual is a serious threat. If you choose to strike hard and fast, and make it so the first 2 guys arent getting up to quickly... the others tend to be hesitant.

one final story i like to tell though... is really kind of amusing. I was vacationing in a small town on the ocean called Tofino (I believe its about the only decent place in Canada to go surfing). It was my first night there and it was after the tourist season was over. I was literally walking down main street when 4 "guys" surrounded me, and started threatening to hurt me. Anyways i of course wasnt backing down - no fear lol - however at that moment a police cruiser saw us and stopped, 2 officers got out and started asking questions obviously concerned about me. they got to me and asked if i had any problems. i said nope, im fine. Cops got in their cruiser and left. Well, this definitely changed the attitude of these guys. they no longer had any interest in fighting with me. even offered to buy me a beer. but i dont drink so i declined and went on my way haha
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12 years 6 months ago #164679 by Stealthy Ninja

geoffellis wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote: Awesome stories. You should consider writing a book, you have a way of keeping attention (I don't usually read posts that long, but I couldn't stop reading.

DO you mind me asking where you lived before?


While i probably have enough material to write a book of short stories... i think an editor would scoff at my use of ellipsis and LOL as replacements for proper grammar haha. nor do i foresee much of an interest in short stories about a guy getting into fights?? heh

As for location... these particular events took place in the Vancouver Region of BC, Canada. Its ironic though... despite being a huge city I actually felt safer in Vancouver despite all that. I never once had a confrontation with someone outside of my place of employment. Before moving to Vancouver however, I lived in rural areas... and it seemed like i was constantly getting "jumped" by groups of stupid "young adults" that i didnt even know (ie it wasnt personal). i must look like an easy target. or maybe its just group mentality. my personal theory though is that the larger the group coming at you, the less likely any one individual is a serious threat. If you choose to strike hard and fast, and make it so the first 2 guys arent getting up to quickly... the others tend to be hesitant.

one final story i like to tell though... is really kind of amusing. I was vacationing in a small town on the ocean called Tofino (I believe its about the only decent place in Canada to go surfing). It was my first night there and it was after the tourist season was over. I was literally walking down main street when 4 "guys" surrounded me, and started threatening to hurt me. Anyways i of course wasnt backing down - no fear lol - however at that moment a police cruiser saw us and stopped, 2 officers got out and started asking questions obviously concerned about me. they got to me and asked if i had any problems. i said nope, im fine. Cops got in their cruiser and left. Well, this definitely changed the attitude of these guys. they no longer had any interest in fighting with me. even offered to buy me a beer. but i dont drink so i declined and went on my way haha


LOL you seem to get into a lot of fights. I never do really, I came close once but I just raised my hands and said "hey I don't want any trouble" and they backed down.

Then again I'm 190cm and weigh around 100kg.
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12 years 6 months ago #164697 by Scotty

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

geoffellis wrote: It was a high volume restaurant in a not so great part of town. commonly dealt with drunks,homeless and people with mental issues.

Im not saying i got into physical confrontations every night though lol... but even if you average 1 incident every 1-2 months... it still works out to as little as 50 during my tenure , and as much as 100. And again these range from small incidents where a guy shoved me because i refused to serve him... to fights that ended up with assaults and weapons charges lol... and everything in between. And im not exactly looking for a fight either... i just wont put up with anyone out of line

Like one incident... my cleaning staff came and told me that a patron was harassing them. well, im not going to kick someone out on that alone. I need a reason. So i went out and sat and watched from a distance. suddenly while one of the cleaning staff was walking by this customer, the customer jumps at him, grabs his mop, and starts chasing him with it. well, I grabbed him, put him in a headlock, dragged him to the nearest exit, and to no exaggeration i threw him out the door. he cut his hand on the stone walkway outside. he called the police and asked them to charge me with assault. the police literally phoned me up. told me this, and asked me what happened. I told them, they asked me for a description and wanted to know if i wanted to press charges. I said no. They told me they had a patrol car in the area and would keep an eye out for him. remember, he called the police, not I.

another, a woman was literally harassing customers, she came in...asking people for money, then literally picked up a guys touchscreen notebook ($$$) and started looking it over... she was not sober and i think the guy was nearly about to deck her... so i told her to leave, she was refusing, so i literally grabbed her by the arm and pulled her from the building, during which she was threatening to shoot me, etc. anyways when we got outside 3 of her male friends waiting outside decided to take a crack at me. anyways it only took 1 bloody nose for them to decide it wasnt worth it lol

ironically if it was a bar, theyd have beefy security guards. As we were a non-alcoholic serving restaurant the owner deemed it too costly to hire security for stuff that /might/ happen like i said once every 1-2 months. And personally, i consider "security" companies here to be a joke anyways. 4000$ for a scrawny guy (or girl) that is primarily trained to take notes and resolve conflict and phone the police LOL they arent even allowed to carry mace.

I have plenty of other stories... i just wanted to be clear that i wasnt exactly out looking for fights haha - but at the same time i have the confidence and experience to take care of myself. i have never been hurt in any confrontation whatsoever, at or outside of work. atleast no more than a few scrapes here and there lol i should also mention though that guns are not really an issue. difficult for the average punk losers to come by. the most dangerous weapons ive encountered are knives. usually kitchen knives LOL- on the upside... i have never had a robbery, armed or otherwise. but thankfully that aspect of my life is over for now

Now im just an unemployed traveller haha


Awesome stories. You should consider writing a book, you have a way of keeping attention (I don't usually read posts that long, but I couldn't stop reading.

DO you mind me asking where you lived before?


You're crazy, all I saw was....wall of text crits for 100.

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12 years 6 months ago #164725 by Stealthy Ninja

Scotty wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

geoffellis wrote: It was a high volume restaurant in a not so great part of town. commonly dealt with drunks,homeless and people with mental issues.

Im not saying i got into physical confrontations every night though lol... but even if you average 1 incident every 1-2 months... it still works out to as little as 50 during my tenure , and as much as 100. And again these range from small incidents where a guy shoved me because i refused to serve him... to fights that ended up with assaults and weapons charges lol... and everything in between. And im not exactly looking for a fight either... i just wont put up with anyone out of line

Like one incident... my cleaning staff came and told me that a patron was harassing them. well, im not going to kick someone out on that alone. I need a reason. So i went out and sat and watched from a distance. suddenly while one of the cleaning staff was walking by this customer, the customer jumps at him, grabs his mop, and starts chasing him with it. well, I grabbed him, put him in a headlock, dragged him to the nearest exit, and to no exaggeration i threw him out the door. he cut his hand on the stone walkway outside. he called the police and asked them to charge me with assault. the police literally phoned me up. told me this, and asked me what happened. I told them, they asked me for a description and wanted to know if i wanted to press charges. I said no. They told me they had a patrol car in the area and would keep an eye out for him. remember, he called the police, not I.

another, a woman was literally harassing customers, she came in...asking people for money, then literally picked up a guys touchscreen notebook ($$$) and started looking it over... she was not sober and i think the guy was nearly about to deck her... so i told her to leave, she was refusing, so i literally grabbed her by the arm and pulled her from the building, during which she was threatening to shoot me, etc. anyways when we got outside 3 of her male friends waiting outside decided to take a crack at me. anyways it only took 1 bloody nose for them to decide it wasnt worth it lol

ironically if it was a bar, theyd have beefy security guards. As we were a non-alcoholic serving restaurant the owner deemed it too costly to hire security for stuff that /might/ happen like i said once every 1-2 months. And personally, i consider "security" companies here to be a joke anyways. 4000$ for a scrawny guy (or girl) that is primarily trained to take notes and resolve conflict and phone the police LOL they arent even allowed to carry mace.

I have plenty of other stories... i just wanted to be clear that i wasnt exactly out looking for fights haha - but at the same time i have the confidence and experience to take care of myself. i have never been hurt in any confrontation whatsoever, at or outside of work. atleast no more than a few scrapes here and there lol i should also mention though that guns are not really an issue. difficult for the average punk losers to come by. the most dangerous weapons ive encountered are knives. usually kitchen knives LOL- on the upside... i have never had a robbery, armed or otherwise. but thankfully that aspect of my life is over for now

Now im just an unemployed traveller haha


Awesome stories. You should consider writing a book, you have a way of keeping attention (I don't usually read posts that long, but I couldn't stop reading.

DO you mind me asking where you lived before?


You're crazy, all I saw was....wall of text crits for 100.


LOL usually I do to, but this time it's not some boring stuff...
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12 years 6 months ago #164827 by DavidM

Farestad wrote: Funny how 30 other point and shoot camera owners didn't get approached and the person with the DSLR get's the boot :rofl:


True, but you have to admit the DSLR is associated in peoples mind as a "professional camera".


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