I just don't get P, auto ISO, etc...

12 years 5 days ago #225674 by Henry Peach
So I read that Joe Buissink shoots on P all the time. He says P stands for "professional". :) I figure if it's good enough for him then I should try it out. So I had a wedding last weekend where I was constantly moving between indoors and outdoors. I decide that this was the perfect time to try P + auto ISO. So when I'm out in the bright sun the camera is choosing ISO 400 @ f/22. When I move indoors to dim lighting it picks ISO 100. I just don't get it. I tried, but it seems to me that the camera was picking the exact opposite settings as I would normally choose. My camera is dumb. I went back to manual.
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12 years 5 days ago #225675 by mj~shutterbugg
:agree: :judge: :goodpost: The only time a camera of mine is in Auto or P is my family point and shoot for the kids. Working- it's all manual. I figure if the camera was intelligent enough to know what to do in every situation, there would be far less crappy Craig's List photog's.

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12 years 5 days ago #225685 by Vincent
I'm with you, I've tried using it and just don't get the purpose of it either. Personally I just keep my camera in manual or aperture priority.

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12 years 5 days ago #225689 by geoffellis
My question is... as a professional why would you choose a wedding to experiment with something like this?? That seems highly illogical to me...
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12 years 5 days ago #225742 by KCook
What else did you expect from Canon? The only way I've been successful with Auto ISO on my 50D is in Tv mode. Of course this requires you to pick a shutter speed for yourself. Program mode is Ok, but really only works with a manual ISO selection.

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12 years 5 days ago #225746 by Scotty
I never use it. I'm either in A (Av for canon), or M.

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12 years 5 days ago #225749 by bmurray
As far as I was aware P is for programme, which means you can set it to your own requirements and be safe in knowing that when you go back to it it will retain your chosen settings.

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12 years 5 days ago #225771 by KCook
"P" is for Program. However, it's the camera's program, not one that you have set. If you set the ISO, fine, the Program mode will stick to that ISO. But Program mode auto sets both aperture and shutter speed with each shot. Some cameras have an AE Lock control that may override this, but that is not common to all cameras.

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12 years 5 days ago #225797 by Joves
I am another who tried it once with my D80 and did not like it at all. Have not used it since. The settings were never what I would choose myself and with the D80 would over expose. With my D300 I tried the Auto ISO and it plain stunk in my opinion, it would choose speeds I would not generally use in dim lighting. I pretty much shoot M or A, and A very rarely.


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12 years 5 days ago #225836 by Little Kate
Same here, just never clicked with me either. I think you can have better shutter and aperture control, but I don't like when the camera makes suggest ISO recommendations.


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12 years 5 days ago #225846 by Darrell
I use A or M only. I did think that p was a combination of S and A. If you adjusted. Fstop than camera picked speed and vise versa, but like I said I don't use it. :beerbang:

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12 years 4 days ago - 12 years 4 days ago #225898 by Henry Peach

geoffellis wrote: My question is... as a professional why would you choose a wedding to experiment with something like this?? That seems highly illogical to me...


After 20+ years with a camera set to manual in my hands everyday it doesn't take me much time or effort to run one. There was no danger that my experiment would result in missed shots. It's not like I had to wait until i got home to see it wasn't working, and then i just went back to manual.

They charge me an arm and a leg for this fancy gear. These features are supposed to be useful.
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12 years 4 days ago #225936 by KCook

They charge me an arm and a leg for this fancy gear. These features are supposed to be useful.

I'm in full agreement. At a minimum they should provide a set of different AE profiles for us to pick from. They already provide preset Picture Styles. How difficult would it be to provide preset AE profiles as well???

Kelly

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12 years 4 days ago #226037 by Sandy Smith Photos
Seems to close to auto for me, I'll stick with manual or aperture priority too.


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12 years 4 days ago #226047 by mattmoran

KCook wrote:

They charge me an arm and a leg for this fancy gear. These features are supposed to be useful.

I'm in full agreement. At a minimum they should provide a set of different AE profiles for us to pick from. They already provide preset Picture Styles. How difficult would it be to provide preset AE profiles as well???

Kelly


Isn't that what the picture modes are? AE with a hint to the camera about the subject (and thus the preferred settings)?

Personally I wish my camera had 4 dials: shutter, aperture, iso and white balance. Each dial should have an "A" for "Auto" if you want the camera to pick that particular setting.

But I've never seen a DSLR with such a sensible layout.

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