Sony a7 and a7R going to affect so many cameras

One thing I don't like is that it doesn't have it's own battery charger

Scotty wrote: It's a really good cam. Slow AF though.  Adrian has one, hopefully he'll chime in.

Adrian isn't here, but Stealthy Ninja will reply in his stead. 

Alex wrote: I had the chance to use one of these a7R's for about a week back in October and must say, as a Nikon fan, I was impressed.  As Scotty mentioned the AF is a tad sluggish, but the camera rocked in so many other areas.  I give Sony props for cramming so much into such a small body. 

Yeh the A7r has only contrast detect AF so it's gonna be sluggish.  Also (according to Kai on Digital Rev) the A7r has a tenancy to focus on the background more than the subject.

The A7 has contrast and phase detect.  So it's not too bad. 

Both aren't as good as a 5D iii or D800 when it comes to AF. But they're smaller and lighter and such. 

What they DO have is very good face detection.  They can even (if you know how to do it) detect and focus on one eye, making eye focusing easy to do.

That said I mainly MF because the (non kit) lens I got for it is manual focus.

IQ on the A7r and A7 is very good.  Similar to Nikon products (which isn't a bad thing).  

The battery charger isn't actually a huge problem IMHO (even though I have a 3rd party external charger for it) because you can use a usb b cable (same as with a lot of android phones) to charge it, which means you can use portable chargers intended for your phone to charge it.  

Adam Nagle wrote: I'm trying to decide between the Sony a7 and the Fuji X-e2.  Thoughts?

Having owned an X-pro 1 and now the A7. I'd go for the A7 because of the superior sensor.  Though the X-E2 isn't bad at all and if you didn't mind the crop sensor and no possibly of the lenses being usable on any future full frame Fuji (the X mount won't cover a full frame sensor) the Fuji is a great choice.  Fuji lenses are all amazing.

digitalpimp wrote: So far, the reviews from owners look pretty good on this camera.  I would wait till v2, give them time to work out the bugs.  

I see what you mean, but this camera isn't exactly a new thing.  Sony have just created an interchangeable RX1 and are really building on their experience built in the NEX line. Every new camera will have some bugs though and one disadvantage with the new FE mount is a current lack of lenses.  The Fuji X-mount had this problem too.

That said you can adapt M mount lenses, EF lenses, FX lenses etc. etc. with adapters and a couple of the current lenses (the 35 2.8 and the 55 1. are very good.  Next month the 24-70 f/4 OS will come too.  So it's not too terrible.  Though if you wanted to shoot PRO stuff on it right now, it would be a bit of a stretch.  Personally, it's not a "pro" camera for me, though with the right skills you could easily take "pro" photos with it.  

Good info

I think Sony has been stepping up their camera game, will be interesting to see how they fine tune their auto focus of this camera.  Thats the only negative I've heard on it.  

ThatNikonGuy wrote: I think Sony has been stepping up their camera game, will be interesting to see how they fine tune their auto focus of this camera.  Thats the only negative I've heard on it.  

I think the issues are mainly with the A7r.  Though I've had some AF hunting in low light with the A7.  Be nice if Sony improves it with a firmware update.

Well, the reviews are online now.  The shooting menus certainly look different from Canon and Nikon, if anybody is into design and style.

KCook wrote: Well, the reviews are online now.  The shooting menus certainly look different from Canon and Nikon, if anybody is into design and style.

You mean DPreview?  There's been a lot of other reviews already.  Most of which disagree with DPreview when it comes to jpeg (something DPreview slammed for some reason).  A lot of people on DPreview are a bit perplexed as to what DPreview are smoking.

Ok.  Examining one of that site's own sample images, I did not see any JPG hanky-panky myself.  Just lowest contrast, which is typical for all DSLR.  In fact, the resolution of the kit zoom looked pretty good.  If only Sony would bring their other kit lenses up to that standard.

Kelly

KCook wrote: Ok.  Examining one of that site's own sample images, I did not see any JPG hanky-panky myself.  Just lowest contrast, which is typical for all DSLR.  In fact, the resolution of the kit zoom looked pretty good.  If only Sony would bring their other kit lenses up to that standard.

Kelly

I personally don't like the kit lens at the long end.  It's a bit soft. 

Next month they'll bring out the 24-70 f/4 OSS (Zeiss) which should be a good lens.

Are you able to open up the image files in LR or PS?