why mac?

Why is it people who have macs say they are better then pc?
I don't want to know opinions or "because it is". I would like to know the facts. What is so great about a mac compare to a pc?

If the windows 8 system stays the same with the start screen then a lot of people will be switching to macs

butterflygirl921 wrote: If the windows 8 system stays the same with the start screen then a lot of people will be switching to macs

What do you mean by the start screen?

If the new Windows 8 OS, stays like Windows 7, people would be switching to a mac? Why?
How would a computer look make the decision if people switch. Shouldn't it be how a computer performs, determine the switch from pc to mac?

Zezzer wrote:

butterflygirl921 wrote: If the windows 8 system stays the same with the start screen then a lot of people will be switching to macs

What do you mean by the start screen?

If the new Windows 8 OS, stays like Windows 7, people would be switching to a mac? Why?
How would a computer look make the decision if people switch. Shouldn't it be how a computer performs, determine the switch from pc to mac?

The start screen is now like an app page and is targeted for touch screen computers only. There is no way to get the traditional start menu back. Its not like windows 7 microsoft is now targeting toward touch screens and not for basic computers anymore.

I think it's more preference. Personally I like the flow of things on a Mac more than I do on my PC.

One difference is that out-of-the-box Macs use In-Plane-Switching or IPS LCD screens. These tend to give better color range and contrast than the other common type, Twisted Nematic, or TN LCD screens. They are also more expensive. Most PC users who don't know the difference buy cheaper TN screens. That's why photos "look better" on Macs. It's also partly why Macs are more expensive than "equivalent" PCs. One can buy IPS monitors for PCs, making the image quality just as good, and the prices closer.

Macs are more self-contained. They come with a lot of components and software that are designed to work together. PCs can be more piecemeal, with components from many manufacturers at varying quality. That's partly because there are way more options available for PCs. Customizing a PC to suit specific needs can require a little more tech knowledge. Macs, with fewer options, and with the provided components being quality, don't usually need much customization and are therefore considered easier to use, particularly by less tech savvy users.

I personally don't buy into the Mac vs PC argument. They are different tools that can achieve the same ends. In my experience most complaints about the other camp arise from lack of familiarity. I'm a PC user. I don't like the way Macs configure windows and I find the tools confusing. That's because I'm not used to working that way, not because PCs are better. I'm sure I'd quickly adapt to a Mac if I had to.

butterflygirl921 wrote:

Zezzer wrote:

butterflygirl921 wrote: If the windows 8 system stays the same with the start screen then a lot of people will be switching to macs

What do you mean by the start screen?

If the new Windows 8 OS, stays like Windows 7, people would be switching to a mac? Why?
How would a computer look make the decision if people switch. Shouldn't it be how a computer performs, determine the switch from pc to mac?

The start screen is now like an app page and is targeted for touch screen computers only. There is no way to get the traditional start menu back. Its not like windows 7 microsoft is now targeting toward touch screens and not for basic computers anymore.

They stated soon as windows 8 was announced that you could use the same GUI as windows 7 and vista, or the new one. The new one is mainly in there for tablet setups.

I have used both PC and Mac. I am currently on PC as that is what my budget would allow. Programs work similar in each but require some learning curve.

I will 2nd they are all in one for the less tech savvy. Apples are very proprietary. You can't get discount Apple parts you must usually buy from Apple or an authorized dealer. It is a quality control thing. I love Mac's and long to switch back to Mac I just can't afford it. Mac's tend to have less bugs, if they do you can usually get Apple to help fix them for free. They are less prone to virus', I think there are like 5 virus' that target Macs, and those are mainly through it's word programs.

However when a Mac dies- it's really dead. They don't break in small easy to fix problems- they require a service professional licensed by Apple to repair one. My macbook broke and it was less expensive to buy a new one then to repair the old one. Also, Mac's aren't plug and play- you can't boost memory or RAM without voiding your warranty. If a DVD drive or piece or RAM corrupts you must use Apple's repair service or you void any recourse from Apple. This is unlike a PC which has numerous outlets for RAM, drives, etc and can just get plugged in without voiding what was originally purchased.

I hope that made some sense.

mj~shutterbugg wrote: I have used both PC and Mac. I am currently on PC as that is what my budget would allow. Programs work similar in each but require some learning curve.

I will 2nd they are all in one for the less tech savvy. Apples are very proprietary. You can't get discount Apple parts you must usually buy from Apple or an authorized dealer. It is a quality control thing. I love Mac's and long to switch back to Mac I just can't afford it. Mac's tend to have less bugs, if they do you can usually get Apple to help fix them for free. They are less prone to virus', I think there are like 5 virus' that target Macs, and those are mainly through it's word programs.

However when a Mac dies- it's really dead. They don't break in small easy to fix problems- they require a service professional licensed by Apple to repair one. My macbook broke and it was less expensive to buy a new one then to repair the old one. Also, Mac's aren't plug and play- you can't boost memory or RAM without voiding your warranty. If a DVD drive or piece or RAM corrupts you must use Apple's repair service or you void any recourse from Apple. This is unlike a PC which has numerous outlets for RAM, drives, etc and can just get plugged in without voiding what was originally purchased.

I hope that made some sense.

You can upgrade your RAM and Hard drives without voiding the warranty. I've done so on about 4 macbook pros now.

If any computer dies it's really dead. You don't need authorized apple parts for their desktops, since there is no such thing. It's the case and the OS....everything else is the same stuff windows PC's are made out of.

All laptops when they die are pretty screwed because the motherboard is all intergrated..save a few things such as ram and hard drives.

I've upgraded video cards, ram, processors, hard drives, even power supplies for mac pro's from new egg with ease.

Scotty wrote:

mj~shutterbugg wrote: I have used both PC and Mac. I am currently on PC as that is what my budget would allow. Programs work similar in each but require some learning curve.

I will 2nd they are all in one for the less tech savvy. Apples are very proprietary. You can't get discount Apple parts you must usually buy from Apple or an authorized dealer. It is a quality control thing. I love Mac's and long to switch back to Mac I just can't afford it. Mac's tend to have less bugs, if they do you can usually get Apple to help fix them for free. They are less prone to virus', I think there are like 5 virus' that target Macs, and those are mainly through it's word programs.

However when a Mac dies- it's really dead. They don't break in small easy to fix problems- they require a service professional licensed by Apple to repair one. My macbook broke and it was less expensive to buy a new one then to repair the old one. Also, Mac's aren't plug and play- you can't boost memory or RAM without voiding your warranty. If a DVD drive or piece or RAM corrupts you must use Apple's repair service or you void any recourse from Apple. This is unlike a PC which has numerous outlets for RAM, drives, etc and can just get plugged in without voiding what was originally purchased.

I hope that made some sense.

You can upgrade your RAM and Hard drives without voiding the warranty. I've done so on about 4 macbook pros now.

If any computer dies it's really dead. You don't need authorized apple parts for their desktops, since there is no such thing. It's the case and the OS....everything else is the same stuff windows PC's are made out of.

All laptops when they die are pretty screwed because the motherboard is all intergrated..save a few things such as ram and hard drives.

I've upgraded video cards, ram, processors, hard drives, even power supplies for mac pro's from new egg with ease.

Really? They kept telling me to buy a new one and that if I did anything personally I was SOL. Good to know.

You may install memory (RAM, VRAM), and other customer-installable parts without voiding your Apple warranty.


Apple's warranty states:
"This warranty does not apply...if the product has been modified without the written permission of Apple..."

Adding memory (DRAM, VRAM) or other user-installable upgrade or expansion products to an Apple computer is not considered a modification to that Apple product. Therefore, it is not necessary to obtain Apple's written permission to upgrade or expand an Apple computer. While Apple strongly recommends that you retain the services of an Apple Authorized Service Provider to perform any product upgrades or expansions, you will not void your Apple warranty if you choose to upgrade or expand your computer yourself. However, if in the course of adding an upgrade or expansion product to your computer, you damage your Apple computer (either through the installation of, or incompatibility of the upgrade or expansion product), Apple's warranty will not cover the cost of repair, or future related repairs.

Warning: Due to the risk of exposure to potentially lethal voltages, you should not under any circumstances separate the plastics of any computer that includes a cathode-ray tube (CRT) in its design, such as the iMac. Only an Apple Authorized Service Provider should separate the plastics of these computers to install an upgrade or make a repair.

mj~shutterbugg wrote: Really? They kept telling me to buy a new one and that if I did anything personally I was SOL. Good to know.

From my experience - parts like RAM/Hard Disk are not an issue at all. It is very easy to swap them in iMac as well as Macbook/Pro. The issue is when you break the screen which is going to be very expensive to replace - These all are same if you go buy a branded PC/laptop like Dell/HP etc., - On the other hand, if you are building your own, then you have control over every thing!

You should always check for compatibility though - but that accounts for any computer - PC or Mac.

The other thing is, you may be charged a bit more for Mac repairs - I do not know why.

chakkaradeep wrote:

mj~shutterbugg wrote: Really? They kept telling me to buy a new one and that if I did anything personally I was SOL. Good to know.

From my experience - parts like RAM/Hard Disk are not an issue at all. It is very easy to swap them in iMac as well as Macbook/Pro. The issue is when you break the screen which is going to be very expensive to replace - These all are same if you go buy a branded PC/laptop like Dell/HP etc., - On the other hand, if you are building your own, then you have control over every thing!

You should always check for compatibility though - but that accounts for any computer - PC or Mac.

The other thing is, you may be charged a bit more for Mac repairs - I do not know why.

Monitors as mentioned are usually IPS which would indicate a higher price in purchase and in repair.

As far as controlling what monitor you can buy from building your own...when you get a mac pro, you don't have to buy their monitor. You can go to a reputable dealer and get your own. iMac and the laptops is the only time when you have to get their monitors.

Plus you look cooler with a Mac

a large part of it is also MacOS vs Windows... not just Mac vs PC. The mac computer IS a pc... just with usually higher end, even proprietary hardware.

The real difference is between Windows, and MacOS

1. Think about it. Apple needs to only support hardware they put in their machine. thats a limited number of hardware drivers and possible conflicts that will cause a crash. on the other hand microsoft attempts to include the software and drivers for THOUSANDS of pieces of hardware. not all of which play nice with each other. each of those hardware vendors also releases driver updates that may not play nice with windows

2. MacOS is based on Unix/Linux. Windows was based on DOS. Now MS did a full rewrite with their NT core... so not as much of an issue... however Linux is considered by many? to be a far superior system... with features that still exceed windows. its just not all that user friendly at times. Mac has taken Linux and made it user friendly but retained the features that make linux so awesome. security, file systems, etc

there are tons of reasons why macos is better, imho... and there a few reasons why windows is better... pretty much just got to decide which features mean more to you lol