Over use of HDR and/or saturation

13 years 3 months ago #16070 by Baydream
How do you feel about using HDR and/or sliding the saturation bar all the way over to make colours like surreal?
Over-doing it bothers me a bit unless it is an obvious attempt to create an abstract sense.
How about you?

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13 years 3 months ago #16071 by Solstar
I'm with you. There are some great HDR shots out there that sort of let you look at the scene in the same way you might with your eyes adjusting for light/dark. I find a lot of them are overdone and look kind of cartoonish. The same goes for oversaturating the colors.


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13 years 3 months ago #16091 by Scotty
99 percent of HDR is garbage. You could get the same results, but better if you did it yourself and stopped using an automated program.

HDR=high dynamic range. Allows for a more expanded dynamic range of your exposure. Muddying up textures, making skies dark grey with white borders, as with haloing makes a picture look like you're an amateur. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

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13 years 3 months ago #16092 by Karl Wertanen
LOL, At least your being honest! :silly:
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13 years 3 months ago - 13 years 3 months ago #16102 by Scotty
http://www.flickr.com/photos/58371403@N02/5358711981/

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13 years 3 months ago #16103 by Scotty
apparently you can't link photos anymore ;P

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13 years 3 months ago #16115 by Yasko

Scotty wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/58371403@N02/5358711981/


Hey, that's not even half as bad as a lot of auto'd HDR's I've seen. It's a good example of what you mentioned though. Skies hard edges wreak havok on HDR's when people don't know what they're doing.

I'm not totally against overprocessing - sometimes it can look good, or give the photo an "edgy" look, but yeah it's easily overdone and halos ruin ANY photo. I usually use HDR to create a scene as close as what the eye sees it, but sometimes burning the images can give some neat results.

JUST NO HALOS





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13 years 3 months ago - 13 years 3 months ago #16129 by Scotty
My whole point is, i didn't even use an hdr program. Go into lightroom.

anybody can do this.

Here's how you HDR without photomatix, photoshop, topaz, lucis pro.


Load up any picture, ANYTHING YOU WANT.


TAKE THESE SLIDERS AND DRAG THEM ALLT HE WAY TO THE RIGHT.
1. Recovery.
2. Fill Light
3. Contrast
4. Clarity
5. Vibrancy


Now take the saturation bar and drag into the negatives, till you get your desired results.

80 percent of the time, what you just did, will look like the "artistic" renders that photomatix does.

Drag blacks up as well, to add more "range".

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13 years 3 months ago - 13 years 3 months ago #16130 by Scotty
A little bit of noise, but you get the drift.

Little more on the artistic side, but with just some sliders in lightroom you can do pseudo-hdr/tone mapping.


It's mainly the power of Fill Light and recovery, Fill light kills shadows, and recovery mutes it down, but destroys quality. When you oversaturate it bleeds into the pixels and creates a cartoon unreal look.

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13 years 3 months ago #16131 by Scotty

Yasko wrote:

Scotty wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/58371403@N02/5358711981/


Hey, that's not even half as bad as a lot of auto'd HDR's I've seen. It's a good example of what you mentioned though. Skies hard edges wreak havok on HDR's when people don't know what they're doing.

I'm not totally against overprocessing - sometimes it can look good, or give the photo an "edgy" look, but yeah it's easily overdone and halos ruin ANY photo. I usually use HDR to create a scene as close as what the eye sees it, but sometimes burning the images can give some neat results.

JUST NO HALOS




Yasko the car looks good, but the trees look pixelated from the HDR process.

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13 years 3 months ago #16142 by photobod
way to go Scotty tell it like it is dont hold back.
gotta agree tho haha

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13 years 3 months ago #16167 by Baydream
I agree. The car is the focus of the shot and the effect on the trees detracts from that slightly.
The church is done well so it looks like we would "remember" it.

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13 years 3 months ago #16168 by Baydream

Scotty wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/58371403@N02/5358711981/


Scotty. Your opinion of the linked photo? At least the color rendering.

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13 years 3 months ago #16234 by Scotty

Baydream wrote:

Scotty wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/58371403@N02/5358711981/


Scotty. Your opinion of the linked photo? At least the color rendering.



Its actually one of my pictures, the water on the fountain looks interesting, but thats because i used a hard high pass overlay layer to sharpen.


My whole goal is to show peoplr you can get awesome edits, without the gunk
and pixelation that bad hdr programs leave behind.

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13 years 3 months ago #16435 by Baydream
Nice job. I do like to hear the intent of a "shopped" photo and this hits your goal.

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