Question about permissions that are needed for photo usage?

12 years 8 months ago #126238 by Martin
If I took a photo of someones car at a car show, do I need an permission to submit that image to a magazine? The license plate isn't showing on the shot.


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12 years 8 months ago #126370 by MLKstudios
The car show people, would have the rights (the hosts of the show). You could maybe sneak it by, but if you want to be all legit, you'll need to contact the host.

Matthew :)

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12 years 8 months ago #126391 by Foxy Girl
How is that so? I don't understand if it's a photo of a car on a show lot or on the street, shouldn't it be the photographers to do with as he/she pleases?


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12 years 8 months ago - 12 years 8 months ago #126392 by MLKstudios
You could probably slip it past them, and they wouldn't come after you. But if you ever read the "fine print" on event tickets, they'll usually try to maintain rights to images produced at their event.

Not always, but it's common.

Lawyers make rules that help lawyers make more $$.

Matthew :)

The U.S. based organization dealing with photographer's rights is ASMP.org. You have to be published (or a student) to join though. They also have the best workshops for pro level photographers.

These are the people shooting covers and ads, with the best gear.

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12 years 8 months ago #126401 by Foxy Girl
So you bring up a good point, what if a photographer from Motor Trend shows up to a car show, you mean they need to get permission to use each photo they take from a show?


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12 years 8 months ago - 12 years 8 months ago #126403 by MLKstudios
Yes, they would get a signed release. And a press pass. ;)

It works both ways. The event hosts WANT good pictures of their event. But they also want credit for hosting it.

I've been wined and dined at some events, so you give them good pictures and good press. A press pass can be better than a credit card. You don't have to pay on it.

Matthew :)

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12 years 8 months ago #126406 by Papabear63
Thanks for the tip, Matt


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12 years 8 months ago #126408 by MLKstudios
All you need to do is a get a NPPA pass and tell them you are a student of journalism. The First Amendment is a great tool for us. The press has free reign in our Democracy.

Matthew :)

Matthew L Kees
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12 years 8 months ago #126415 by Foxy Girl
Are you talking about the press pass that is received from one of those organizations that you pay?


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12 years 8 months ago - 12 years 8 months ago #126417 by MLKstudios
NPPA gets you a magazine subscription and a pass. Not everyone will accept it, but if you add you are a "student" of journalism (not photography), you can slide into many places, behind the scenes.

Otherwise, hook up with ANY publication that prints work similar to the event. Ask them to get you a pass, in exchange for pics.

"f/8 and be there".

Matthew :)

Matthew L Kees
MLK Studios Photography School
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12 years 8 months ago #126421 by Foxy Girl
I don't understand how being a student of journalism makes a difference from being a student of photography? Oh wait, freedom of speech?


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12 years 8 months ago - 12 years 8 months ago #126423 by MLKstudios
Freedom of the PRESS!! Amendment #1.

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12 years 8 months ago #126452 by steveheap
If the car is on private land (or a building) then I understand that the permission of the owner of the space is required. If the car is on a public road, then the concept of fair use kicks in - if the image is going to be used for comment or for an illustration in a text book, then you don't normally need to get anyone's permission. Pictures of cars for stock or commercial purposes used to be OK as long as the makers badge was not visible, but recently, most of the stock sites have been removing images of cars because it can be claimed that the shape and details of the car are subject to copyright. It is a moving feast, to be honest!

Steve

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12 years 8 months ago #126613 by Crazyguy

MLKstudios wrote: Freedom of the PRESS!! Amendment #1.


AMEN! :beerbang:

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12 years 8 months ago #126672 by Rolly
I believe if it's in a car show, the only person you may need permission from is the owner of the car. There are times you may not be able to find that owner. There are many car shows in my area, small car shows that are located in a parking lot or at a park. The owners are always standing near their car. Everyone takes pictures of their cool looking vehicles. These owners also have to know that those pictures will be on people's computers and on the net..forwarding in emails etc.. So just ask the owner if you have permission to sell the image of their car. Of course get written permission.


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