wendy_johnson wrote: i have an opporutnity to become an apprentice to a local professional photographer. The problem is he doesn't want to pay. He says the experience will be so rewarding that I won't have to spend money in a photography school.
I talked it over with my parents and they think I'm nuts to consider it. My dad says only fools work for free.
I want to take the job and need some arguments to convince my parents. Does anyone know if working for free is normal in the industry? Or am I just being played?
Stealthy Ninja wrote: I want to post here again.
I have a video production business and aside from sound and lighting guys, I occasionally I have to hire a best boy grip (helper - usually my nephew) I usually do most of the grip work on productions as well as be a director/producer where need be as I do mostly small end commercial stuff...
I always pay my workers, even if it's a small amount. I factor this into the production cost, even if it means I don't make as much.
If the "pro" can't do this. Then I say give it a miss because they're probably crap.
iGeek wrote:
Stealthy Ninja wrote: I want to post here again.
I have a video production business and aside from sound and lighting guys, I occasionally I have to hire a best boy grip (helper - usually my nephew) I usually do most of the grip work on productions as well as be a director/producer where need be as I do mostly small end commercial stuff...
I always pay my workers, even if it's a small amount. I factor this into the production cost, even if it means I don't make as much.
If the "pro" can't do this. Then I say give it a miss because they're probably crap.
100% agree with how you operate. Pay them at least something, I think it's just cheap to expect free labor. What kind of video's do you produce?
Stealthy Ninja wrote:
iGeek wrote:
Stealthy Ninja wrote: I want to post here again.
I have a video production business and aside from sound and lighting guys, I occasionally I have to hire a best boy grip (helper - usually my nephew) I usually do most of the grip work on productions as well as be a director/producer where need be as I do mostly small end commercial stuff...
I always pay my workers, even if it's a small amount. I factor this into the production cost, even if it means I don't make as much.
If the "pro" can't do this. Then I say give it a miss because they're probably crap.
100% agree with how you operate. Pay them at least something, I think it's just cheap to expect free labor. What kind of video's do you produce?
Nothing worth writing home about.
Mainly business/commercial stuff. It's not artistic/interesting, but it pays OK. I do a lot of videos for Powerpoint Presentations it seems.
iGeek wrote:
Stealthy Ninja wrote:
iGeek wrote:
Stealthy Ninja wrote: I want to post here again.
I have a video production business and aside from sound and lighting guys, I occasionally I have to hire a best boy grip (helper - usually my nephew) I usually do most of the grip work on productions as well as be a director/producer where need be as I do mostly small end commercial stuff...
I always pay my workers, even if it's a small amount. I factor this into the production cost, even if it means I don't make as much.
If the "pro" can't do this. Then I say give it a miss because they're probably crap.
100% agree with how you operate. Pay them at least something, I think it's just cheap to expect free labor. What kind of video's do you produce?
Nothing worth writing home about.
Mainly business/commercial stuff. It's not artistic/interesting, but it pays OK. I do a lot of videos for Powerpoint Presentations it seems.
As long as you enjoy it and you make a few bucks!
Stealthy Ninja wrote:
iGeek wrote:
Stealthy Ninja wrote:
iGeek wrote:
Stealthy Ninja wrote: I want to post here again.
I have a video production business and aside from sound and lighting guys, I occasionally I have to hire a best boy grip (helper - usually my nephew) I usually do most of the grip work on productions as well as be a director/producer where need be as I do mostly small end commercial stuff...
I always pay my workers, even if it's a small amount. I factor this into the production cost, even if it means I don't make as much.
If the "pro" can't do this. Then I say give it a miss because they're probably crap.
100% agree with how you operate. Pay them at least something, I think it's just cheap to expect free labor. What kind of video's do you produce?
Nothing worth writing home about.
Mainly business/commercial stuff. It's not artistic/interesting, but it pays OK. I do a lot of videos for Powerpoint Presentations it seems.
As long as you enjoy it and you make a few bucks!
Yeah it's funny, I enjoy working with video for pay, even though it's hours and hours of work.
BUT I prefer to do photography for fun rather than be paid for it.
iGeek wrote:
Stealthy Ninja wrote:
iGeek wrote:
Stealthy Ninja wrote:
iGeek wrote:
Stealthy Ninja wrote: I want to post here again.
I have a video production business and aside from sound and lighting guys, I occasionally I have to hire a best boy grip (helper - usually my nephew) I usually do most of the grip work on productions as well as be a director/producer where need be as I do mostly small end commercial stuff...
I always pay my workers, even if it's a small amount. I factor this into the production cost, even if it means I don't make as much.
If the "pro" can't do this. Then I say give it a miss because they're probably crap.
100% agree with how you operate. Pay them at least something, I think it's just cheap to expect free labor. What kind of video's do you produce?
Nothing worth writing home about.
Mainly business/commercial stuff. It's not artistic/interesting, but it pays OK. I do a lot of videos for Powerpoint Presentations it seems.
As long as you enjoy it and you make a few bucks!
Yeah it's funny, I enjoy working with video for pay, even though it's hours and hours of work.
BUT I prefer to do photography for fun rather than be paid for it.
So is your video production company what you do full time or part time?
wendy_johnson wrote: i have an opporutnity to become an apprentice to a local professional photographer. The problem is he doesn't want to pay. He says the experience will be so rewarding that I won't have to spend money in a photography school.
I talked it over with my parents and they think I'm nuts to consider it. My dad says only fools work for free.
I want to take the job and need some arguments to convince my parents. Does anyone know if working for free is normal in the industry? Or am I just being played?
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