What is the trick to getting bright white back grounds?

13 years 3 months ago #20550 by Silver Fox
Might as well start the week off with a question here! Over the weekend I made a make shift studio table and was trying my luck at product photos with a white back ground. I think I need to get better lighting, but still, I couldn't get my background bright white. It always turned out a dull white or even a greyish color to it.

What is the trick to getting nice crisp white backgrounds?

Thanks so much for the help!


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13 years 3 months ago #20562 by Djradio
Good question. I have also tried and can not get white backgrounds, even with a white paper background. :goodpost:


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13 years 3 months ago #20563 by Tammyluvshorses
I believe the name is called high key photos. I'm not 100% sure how to create them when you take the photo, but if the photo ends up with a gray background, just adjust your exposure, levels etc.. in photoshop to create the white background.


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13 years 3 months ago #20564 by KatieKite
or you can mask away the subject in photoshop to create the white background.


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13 years 3 months ago #20565 by Skinny431
Does anyone know if a strobe would create a white background?


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13 years 3 months ago #20567 by Kip
should be able to use light strobe to overexpose background while you meter for the subject; so the background is bright wihite.


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13 years 3 months ago - 13 years 3 months ago #20569 by Screamin Scott
What White balance setting are you using & what type of lighting?...Sounds like you might need to give it a bit of extra exposure as well...I've got a couple of Hi Key shots in my gallery,one of an insect & another of a flower...

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13 years 3 months ago #20576 by Ba3b3
eww an insect. I don't think I could photograph insects.


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13 years 3 months ago #20578 by McBeth Photography

Ba3b3 wrote: eww an insect. I don't think I could photograph insects.


Actually, me neither....But, Scott's insect macros are some of the best around.

It is what it is.
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13 years 3 months ago - 13 years 3 months ago #20607 by Scotty
Use a white background.


You typically for a normal portrait use a main and a fill light on your model.

For the background use 2 lights and blow out the background. Don't use softboxes, just dishes to spread the light. Meter the ratios about 1 to 2 stops above your main light, and keep going up till you blow out the background.


Unless you want a non-blown out white, then just bring down the power.

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13 years 3 months ago #20623 by photobod

Scotty wrote: Use a white background.


You typically for a normal portrait use a main and a fill light on your model.

For the background use 2 lights and blow out the background. Don't use softboxes, just dishes to spread the light. Meter the ratios about 1 to 2 stops above your main light, and keep going up till you blow out the background.


Unless you want a non-blown out white, then just bring down the power.


Spot on Scotty, this is what I do for my portrait shoots in the kids nurseries, I set up my background and rear lights first, one iether side of the screen, I have barn doors on and the closest barn door to me is used to prevent any light spill onto the subject, the others are pulled right back out of the way as not needed, switch the lights on, and set them so they cover the whole background the light from both lights should meet somwhere in the middle doesnt matter if they overlap a bit, my camera is set to manual, 1-25th @f8, this is my starting point, I then test shoot and with my camera set on showing the highlights, so when I look at the reear screen I can see what is blown out, I can see exactly what needs adjust, once I am happy with the background then I can concentrate on the subject.

hope this helps
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13 years 3 months ago #20626 by Jen0block4
I haven't done any in studio work. Thanks for sharing. I can't wait to try it now.


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13 years 3 months ago - 13 years 3 months ago #20695 by Baydream

Ba3b3 wrote: eww an insect. I don't think I could photograph insects.

If you have ever photographed a politician, then ...... never mind.

Shoot, learn and share. It will make you a better photographer.
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13 years 3 months ago #20743 by Conner

Baydream wrote:

Ba3b3 wrote: eww an insect. I don't think I could photograph insects.

If you have ever photographed a politician, then ...... never mind.

:rofl: :rofl:


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13 years 3 months ago #20748 by Stealthy Ninja
I prefer not to blow out my backgrounds because that can cause the edges of your subject to disappear. I'd rather get it right on the right edge of the histogram and use PS to either play with the curves. OR use layers to mask it out.

Quite often, if it's a serious shot I'll use the pen tool to cut it out and just replace the background with white.

Example of using the pen tool:
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