Get published - two bright lights??

What's the deal with this company twobrightlights.com? Their header reads "get published" which of course caught my attention. Well that and the phrase to the right of that that talks about those who feature (pay their $129 yearly fee) earn 73% more.

I might have this wrong, but it looks like this system spams your photos out to hundreds of blog sites in minutes. Did I miss something? How do you earn capital from this?

Who's used this, or heard of this company?

I'm not feeling this. It does look like your spamming your photos out, how do you know where they end up?!

I'd read the fine print... look at #5 License By You to Publishers, under Terms of Service (it's under Legal at the bottom of the page). What would concern me is "While you retain ownership..." "...the Publisher will own all right...in any compilation, collective work, or other derivative work created by the Publisher using or incorporating your accepted Member Content."

I didn't read any further, I would find this part of the terms questionable.

I'm not feeling this either

Why? you don't know where your photos are getting posted to? People complain about Pinterest, this is worse.

But if you read their ad they say when you leave your photos go with you. But here is #4 in their ToS.

You hereby grant us a non-exclusive, royalty-free, irrevocable, perpetual, worldwide right to use, reproduce, edit, market, store, distribute, have distributed, publicly and privately display, communicate, publicly and privately perform, transmit, have transmitted, create derivative works based upon and promote your Member Content (as such may be edited and modified by us in our sole and absolute discretion), or any portion thereof, through the TBL network and any other products or services as we may designate, in any medium now known or hereafter devised, online or offline and by any means of delivery, for editorial, commercial, promotional and all other purposes. You retain all rights in your Member Content, subject to the rights granted to us in this Agreement. You may modify or remove your Member Content via your TBL Account or by terminating your TBL Account.

So not only are they stealing from you, they are charging you to steal from you. Yeah these guys make Pinterest look like saints.

Joves wrote: But if you read their ad they say when you leave your photos go with you. But here is #4 in their ToS.

You hereby grant us a non-exclusive, royalty-free, irrevocable, perpetual, worldwide right to use, reproduce, edit, market, store, distribute, have distributed, publicly and privately display, communicate, publicly and privately perform, transmit, have transmitted, create derivative works based upon and promote your Member Content (as such may be edited and modified by us in our sole and absolute discretion), or any portion thereof, through the TBL network and any other products or services as we may designate, in any medium now known or hereafter devised, online or offline and by any means of delivery, for editorial, commercial, promotional and all other purposes. You retain all rights in your Member Content, subject to the rights granted to us in this Agreement. You may modify or remove your Member Content via your TBL Account or by terminating your TBL Account.

So not only are they stealing from you, they are charging you to steal from you. Yeah these guys make Pinterest look like saints.

I was just thinking the same

And how many of those sites don't have right click disabled? I like to have control of my photos.

Studio Queen wrote: And how many of those sites don't have right click disabled? I like to have control of my photos.

You don't really think disabling right click actually does any good, do you?

I'm skeptical of the service as well. On top of the questionable rights grabs, most blogs I've ever read the submission guidelines on want exclusive content, meaning content that wasn't submitted to a million blogs. While spamming may get you some volume publicity, it's completely impersonal and no blog wants to have the same content.

Tamgerine wrote:

Studio Queen wrote: And how many of those sites don't have right click disabled? I like to have control of my photos.

You don't really think disabling right click actually does any good, do you?

I'm skeptical of the service as well. On top of the questionable rights grabs, most blogs I've ever read the submission guidelines on want exclusive content, meaning content that wasn't submitted to a million blogs. While spamming may get you some volume publicity, it's completely impersonal and no blog wants to have the same content.

FAILED

I'll pass

HI there

I'm Caroline and I work at Two Bright Lights. I just joined - before that I was a pro photographer using their service

So how this works is it's for photographers who want to get featured in magazines / blogs. Think a feature from an editor. If that's what you want to do today, you have to find your editor, prepare a submission with their ToS, format everything, then wait until the editor has reviewed your submission for publication, and hopefully you're selected for a feature. If you don't, you have to start the process all over again. That's why few wedding photographers get published in general - it's just too much work.
With Two Bright Lights, that process is easier. So you select which editor you want to submit to, and if the editor says no, it's a 3 click resubmit to another editor. Simple.
So this isn't an alternative to *selling* your photos, it's not a stock site, and it's definitely not a spam your photos around site. This is an alternative to the submission processes that exist today to try to get you PR. You have a list of editors you can choose from, so it's not like you don't know - you are the one selecting which sites you're submitting which photos to. No editor can just find your photo without your consent and publish it - so it's a lot more like doing your own PR.

Hope that makes sense!

Caroline
Two Bright Lights
Sphynge Photography

sphynge wrote: HI there

I'm Caroline and I work at Two Bright Lights. I just joined - before that I was a pro photographer using their service

So how this works is it's for photographers who want to get featured in magazines / blogs. Think a feature from an editor. If that's what you want to do today, you have to find your editor, prepare a submission with their ToS, format everything, then wait until the editor has reviewed your submission for publication, and hopefully you're selected for a feature. If you don't, you have to start the process all over again. That's why few wedding photographers get published in general - it's just too much work.
With Two Bright Lights, that process is easier. So you select which editor you want to submit to, and if the editor says no, it's a 3 click resubmit to another editor. Simple.
So this isn't an alternative to *selling* your photos, it's not a stock site, and it's definitely not a spam your photos around site. This is an alternative to the submission processes that exist today to try to get you PR. You have a list of editors you can choose from, so it's not like you don't know - you are the one selecting which sites you're submitting which photos to. No editor can just find your photo without your consent and publish it - so it's a lot more like doing your own PR.

Hope that makes sense!

Caroline
Two Bright Lights
Sphynge Photography

So how do photographers have piece of mind their photos are safe?

sphynge wrote: HI there

I'm Caroline and I work at Two Bright Lights. I just joined - before that I was a pro photographer using their service

So how this works is it's for photographers who want to get featured in magazines / blogs. Think a feature from an editor. If that's what you want to do today, you have to find your editor, prepare a submission with their ToS, format everything, then wait until the editor has reviewed your submission for publication, and hopefully you're selected for a feature. If you don't, you have to start the process all over again. That's why few wedding photographers get published in general - it's just too much work.
With Two Bright Lights, that process is easier. So you select which editor you want to submit to, and if the editor says no, it's a 3 click resubmit to another editor. Simple.
So this isn't an alternative to *selling* your photos, it's not a stock site, and it's definitely not a spam your photos around site. This is an alternative to the submission processes that exist today to try to get you PR. You have a list of editors you can choose from, so it's not like you don't know - you are the one selecting which sites you're submitting which photos to. No editor can just find your photo without your consent and publish it - so it's a lot more like doing your own PR.

Hope that makes sense!

Caroline
Two Bright Lights
Sphynge Photography

So is this a limited list of editors, as in you can't submit to blogs/publishers who aren't on your list?