cell phone pictures

Rob pix4u2 wrote: cellular cameras are for non-photographers

Those are fightin words!

Fighten with STYLE though.

oh, and emergencies

I have a camera phone. I barely use it.

I was shocked to receive this response to my comments to Dewitt Jones:
John, stop going to the photography chat areas! They fill your head with nonsense and keep you from taking pictures. So camera phones are non professional because you can't make large print of the image? Following that logic, you can only b...e a "professional" if you shoot a 8x10 view camera. The image above will make a beautiful 8x10 print right out of the camera (I'm sorry, phone). With a little tweaking, I could make darn good 16x20. How big do I have to make it before it's "professional"?

Silly argument, John, don't fall for it. What is the real reason that most of us (even professionals) photograph? To SEE, to CONNECT, to Fall In Love with the World. That doesn't depend on the size of you camera, that depends on how wide your eyes and your heart are open. That's the important part, stay focused on that.

ps - here's an article showing how a iphone image was used for a cover of MacWorld magazine (how unprofessional...)

www.geek.com/articles/mobile/iphone-4-us...azine-cover-2010084/

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Of course MacWorld would feature an iPhone photo. Illustrates the single-minded mentality and self-promotion of Apple. Duh.

Baydream wrote: I was shocked to receive this response to my comments to Dewitt Jones:
John, stop going to the photography chat areas! They fill your head with nonsense and keep you from taking pictures. So camera phones are non professional because you can't make large print of the image? Following that logic, you can only b...e a "professional" if you shoot a 8x10 view camera. The image above will make a beautiful 8x10 print right out of the camera (I'm sorry, phone). With a little tweaking, I could make darn good 16x20. How big do I have to make it before it's "professional"?

Silly argument, John, don't fall for it. What is the real reason that most of us (even professionals) photograph? To SEE, to CONNECT, to Fall In Love with the World. That doesn't depend on the size of you camera, that depends on how wide your eyes and your heart are open. That's the important part, stay focused on that.

ps - here's an article showing how a iphone image was used for a cover of MacWorld magazine (how unprofessional...)

www.geek.com/articles/mobile/iphone-4-us...azine-cover-2010084/

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Of course MacWorld would feature an iPhone photo. Illustrates the single-minded mentality and self-promotion of Apple. Duh.

His argument sucks because the exception doesn't define the rule. If cell phones are good enough for pro work, then he should sell all his gear and just use his Iphone.

I replied to Dewitt and expressed my concern about his comments about chat areas and How his response seemed somewhat dismissive. I received a personal message saying he did not mean to be taken literally about chat areas but was only to encourage taking more photographs. He also apologized for being perceived as dismissive. The response was first class and served as a reminder to all of us to read what we post and not assume our message is understood. A classy response.

Baydream wrote: I replied to Dewitt and expressed my concern about his comments about chat areas and How his response seemed somewhat dismissive. I received a personal message saying he did not mean to be taken literally about chat areas but was only to encourage taking more photographs. He also apologized for being perceived as dismissive. The response was first class and served as a reminder to all of us to read what we post and not assume our message is understood. A classy response.

It's all about the image basically.

Exactly. He said he has been posting photos from the "big boxes" and getting a couple of comments but when he posts one from his iPhone, he gets around 20. His purpose is to get discussions going about photography.

People don't pay others to take photos with Cell/Mobile Phones. Unless it's Macworld and they want to show off the iPhone...


When people pay for photos they expect a certain level of quality. Maybe it's psychological but seeing the big ol' camera with seemingly "huge" lens on the front is comforting to the client. Even if THEY can't see the difference in the final product.

As for Dewitt. A lot of these old national geographic photographers are fairly new to digital and honestly they're more into the image than the finer points of the quality/technology. I probably know more than him about Digital Photography BUT I'm not as good as him at getting the IMAGE. Which is really what's important.

As it's often said, a really good photographer can take a good shot with any camera (even a mobile phone).

As for me, I need all the help I can get LOL.

Baydream wrote: Exactly. He said he has been posting photos from the "big boxes" and getting a couple of comments but when he posts one from his iPhone, he gets around 20. His purpose is to get discussions going about photography.

That's because people are use to getting crappy shots from their mobile phones and when they see what a top pro can do (and the fact he's actually using a crappy mobile phone to get shots) it's interesting/impressive. Whether they could do the same is debatable.

I bet the "big box" photos are better when you look close, but honestly on the web who can tell?

That said those iPhone "glamour" shots someone linked to a bunch of posts ago are pretty noticeably poor when it comes to noise. It's like they shot shot a low end DSLR set at 1600iso or something. OK for the purpose of showing off their lighting, but not really the level of quality a PAYING customer would expect.

Baydream wrote: John, stop going to the photography chat areas! They fill your head with nonsense...