What was the resolution of film?

9 years 5 months ago #416014 by GWS
In theory or fact?  


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9 years 5 months ago #416022 by icepics
There have been discussions on this so if you search you might find something. I shoot film and digitally, I'm not sure that you can compare or measure sharpness or quality in the same way. Film has grain in the emulsion that's on one side, media cards record in square pixels, so you're recording images in a different way in a different medium.

I think it depends more on how sharp a lens you use, getting a proper exposure, knowing how to compose images well etc. if you want to get the best quality photos. I've gotten photos accepted into juried exhibits, ones that I've shot on film, or digitally, or using alternate processes so for me it hasn't mattered which medium I've used.

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9 years 5 months ago #416044 by Joves
:agree:
Also it depends on the film as they are all different. The lower the ISO the higher the resolution. This is due to the fact that the grain can be very fine since it is for a high light environment. When you go to higher ISO films over say 400 the grain gets more coarse, or larger to accept less light.


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9 years 5 months ago #416164 by effron
The title question would lead one to believe film is no more. That's not accurate.....:)

Why so serious?
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9 years 5 months ago #416179 by MYoung
I thought it was around 20MP?


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9 years 5 months ago #416318 by garyrhook
It would be specified in DPI, not MP. And as stated above, it depends upon the film. There's no single answer.


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9 years 5 months ago - 9 years 5 months ago #416403 by Joves

garyrhook wrote: It would be specified in DPI, not MP. And as stated above, it depends upon the film. There's no single answer.


Exactly!
Then there is also a matter of resolution in printing. In order to print photos from it of any great size the film needs to be of a larger format. But it is still under the grain constraint of resolution as well.
If you want a quick and maybe not accurate example, then look at it like this, if 400 ISO film is 300 DPI, then 25 ISO is 1000 DPI. That is the difference in the grain sizes.


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9 years 5 months ago #416415 by Tim Entin

effron wrote: The title question would lead one to believe film is no more. That's not accurate.....:)



Sad fact, is it's on it's way there.  :(


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9 years 5 months ago #416498 by Pettigrew
Wiki offers a pretty good write up on this topic as well -  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_versus_film_photography  

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9 years 5 months ago #416548 by Joves

Pettigrew wrote: Wiki offers a pretty good write up on this topic as well -  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_versus_film_photography  


But Wiki, or the authors are incorrectly equating the film sizes in the resolution with MPs, over DPI. They are giving the 4x5, and larger films some outrageous numbers that are not even close. This is because with the film it is not the size that decides the resolution, unlike digital, but the fineness of the grain, or DPI. In which case digital sensors out resolve film. The only reason that you could print larger photos with Medium Format was the size of the negative, the resolution of the final image was again affected by the grain of the film itself. A digital sensor is always at a constant, unless you use a cropped lens on a Full Frame camera that allows it, so the more MPs the larger the data file, and the better the resolution for printing.


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9 years 5 months ago - 9 years 5 months ago #416586 by hghlndr6

Joves wrote:

Pettigrew wrote: Wiki offers a pretty good write up on this topic as well -  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_versus_film_photography  


But Wiki, or the authors are incorrectly equating the film sizes in the resolution with MPs, over DPI. They are giving the 4x5, and larger films some outrageous numbers that are not even close. This is because with the film it is not the size that decides the resolution, unlike digital, but the fineness of the grain, or DPI. In which case digital sensors out resolve film. The only reason that you could print larger photos with Medium Format was the size of the negative, the resolution of the final image was again affected by the grain of the film itself. A digital sensor is always at a constant, unless you use a cropped lens on a Full Frame camera that allows it, so the more MPs the larger the data file, and the better the resolution for printing.


:agree:

It's apples and oranges.  A digital file has a specific number of pixels, resulting from a sensor with a specific number of photo sites, and therefore has a resolution that can be expressed in ppi.  Film has a continuous emulsion.  With lower sensitivity film, such as 25 or 32, that emulsion would have a very fine grain.  At higher sensitivity, such as 400, the emulsion would have more grain.  Push that 400 film to 1600 and you get even bigger grain.  None of that equates to resolution.  As Dennis said, the size of the negative (or transparency) does come into play.  An enlargement to a given size from a 35mm is going to show more grain than the same size printed from a 2-1/4 square, and a lot more than the same size printed from a 4x5.
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