What would you do in this situation?

9 years 3 months ago #425178 by Master Photograffer
At a friend of a friends house last night and his son kept grabbing my camera.  I didn't want to be rude, so I kept brushing the kid off and telling him this was not a toy.  His father just laughed it off and said "kids will be kids":blink:  .  Well I had set the camera down on their counter top in their kitchen, well away from the edge so I could use their restroom.  While in there washing my hands I heard a yell from the father, then a unmistakable sound of a camera falling and hitting their slate floor.  :pinch:

Long story short, the kid tried to get at it and knocked it down on the floor.  The fall broke the lens (70-200mm) hood and so far there is something buggy going on with the auto focus.  

I'm going to drop both the camera and lens off at the shop tomorrow to be inspected.  The father never offered to pay for anything, he just stood there with the same stupid look on his face.  

Ahhhhhh, there some parents who need to discipline their kids better!  

You mind me asking how you would handle this?  


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9 years 3 months ago - 9 years 3 months ago #425179 by garyrhook
You knew the kid was out of control and left the camera out, so share the blame. I'd flat out point out to the dad that it was clear you didn't want the camera messed with, and you would appreciate splitting the cost of repairs with him.

Be prepared to get nothing, and to lose a friend. At best, it's a learning opportunity.

All that to say, I'd ask, nicely, for help in covering repairs. But I would expect nothing. The man hasn't learned to take responsibility for his kid, he may not take responsibility for this. But he's got a rough road ahead, I'll say that. :S


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9 years 3 months ago #425187 by Master Photograffer
I agree, good advice.  Honestly I would have expected some response from him.  If he had offered at time of incident, I most likely would have said no thank you and just take responsibility for not doing something different with my camera.  


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9 years 3 months ago #425198 by Don Fischer
Your not blameless in this. You knew the kid could be a problem yet you left it out where the kid could get to it. Why didn't you take it to the rest room with you. Yea, if I were the dad I'd feel some responsibility for the camera and you wouldn't have to ask me.

So tell me, you go over there again and use the restroom, will you leave your camera on the kitchen counter of tale it with you?


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9 years 3 months ago #425211 by Moe
I would make a point to the father and see what he says.  If he doesn't offer anything, time for new friends. 


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9 years 3 months ago #425214 by Hassner
It depends on your friendship level with this dad. Are you paying for all the damage, or are you losing a friend? How important is this friendship to you? Your chat will affect the friendship.


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9 years 3 months ago #425216 by icepics
How old was the kid? just wondering if the child was at an age where it could be expected that he/she would be able to have the self control to leave it alone (since he kept messing with it). Sounds like he/she wasn't old enough or mature enough to understand to not play with it. Regardless you'd think the dad would have kept an eye on it.

I usually take my camera to the restroom with me, along with my purse! Unless it's a good friend/relative's house and a kid-free place. And I say that having worked with kids. lol 

Friend of a friend doesn't sound like anyone too close, I don't know if I'd bring it up or chalk it up to as Gary said a learning experience and not ever take your camera to their house again! I guess once you get an estimate you could let the dad know the camera was damaged and even though it was an accident it will cost $$ to repair etc.; and you thought it would be OK to leave it where you put it, up on the counter and not right within the kid's reach. Maybe try to approach it that you're not blaming the kid, that it was an accident, but it is an expense having to repair your camera since it got damaged in their house. But I don't know if the dad will offer to even help pay for it, depends on if you'd feel better if you say something or if you think it's better to just let it go.

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9 years 3 months ago - 9 years 3 months ago #425222 by effron
You knew the camera had the kid's attention, and left it in the danger zone? I'm guessing you have no children of your own. This one is on you in my opinion. Sorry to hear of the damage and hope YOU have insurance....:(

btw, if the dad is a real friend, you will need to mention nothing, he'll do what's right....

Why so serious?
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9 years 3 months ago #425227 by Don Fischer

effron wrote: You knew the camera had the kid's attention, and left it in the danger zone? I'm guessing you have no children of your own. This one is on you in my opinion. Sorry to hear of the damage and hope YOU have insurance....:(

btw, if the dad is a real friend, you will need to mention nothing, he'll do what's right....


Right on.


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9 years 3 months ago #425247 by Tony Imaging

effron wrote: You knew the camera had the kid's attention, and left it in the danger zone? I'm guessing you have no children of your own. This one is on you in my opinion. Sorry to hear of the damage and hope YOU have insurance....:(

btw, if the dad is a real friend, you will need to mention nothing, he'll do what's right....



EXACTLY!   If he doesn't, well that says it all right there.  


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9 years 3 months ago #425361 by Tanner Bello
I wouldn't skip a beat and ask for a little reimbursement.  First rule of parenting, take responsibility of what our kids do.   


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9 years 3 months ago #425519 by Flash Steven
If he didn't make any effort in offering then, he sure won't when you bring it to his attention.  So, either way, prepare to find a new friend. 

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9 years 3 months ago #425631 by Randy Shaw
Get ready to spend some $$ and not get reimbursed! 


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9 years 3 months ago #425782 by Joves

Tony Imaging wrote:

effron wrote: You knew the camera had the kid's attention, and left it in the danger zone? I'm guessing you have no children of your own. This one is on you in my opinion. Sorry to hear of the damage and hope YOU have insurance....:(

btw, if the dad is a real friend, you will need to mention nothing, he'll do what's right....



EXACTLY!   If he doesn't, well that says it all right there.  

:agree: also.
If it had been me the camera would have been in the bathroom with me. Though if it had been me the kid would have learned the first time he touched the camera to not do it. I am the type to say something if the parent lets their kid go nuts, to the kid themselves. I do have one of those voices that is well suited to putting some healthy fear into them.
Truthfully I see this far too often today. The parents do not seem to parent at all. Instead they just kind of house their kids. I can always tell how bad it will be when I walk into someones house. IF the kids toys are strewn in every room in the house, they have the run of it, and their parents. People like that are never my friends for long. I do not tolerate wishy washy people very well, and they do not tolerate me well either.


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9 years 3 months ago #425784 by Screamin Scott
Chalk it up to a lesson learned. Seems you really don't know this individual if it's the "friend of a friend" .... Bottom line is that kids do this kind of stuff regularly & it seems as though you have no experience with children, thus the onus is on your
of perception of the situation. Yeah, the father should be somewhat forthcoming in helping to pay for the repair, but if he doesn't, you have still learned a valuable lesson... (think about parents having to "childproof" a house)...

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