So all crop sensor camera's compress RAW images to JPEG's right? So which camera maker is ranked the best for JPEG quality? Sony, Nikon, Canon, or Pentax? We picked up a new Sony flat screen TV a couple weeks ago and I had to speak to their support team today. While on the phone I was talking to the Sony rep about camera's and he said Sony is known for having the best JPEG quality photos produced from a DSLR.
Now I'm not saying I believed the guy, but I would think that either Nikon or Canon would have that trophy? But then again, I never thought there was much difference in JPEG quality from one camera to another?
Good question. From what I understand Canon cameras do sharpen the images more than others and although I don't have 100% confirmation of my opinion, I would say Nikon and Canon would have the better JPEG quality.
Never, EVER, believe a company rep without him/her providing proof to back up their claim. I'm sure that Yugo reps told people they had the best quality ratings.
Baydream is right. The Jpegs are actually pretty much the same and Nikons use Sony sensors so the Nikons are the same quality. Jpegs are compressed as it is and lacks all of the information a RAW does. Camera settings only affect the Jpegs end results, RAW files are unaffected. So if you use heavy sharpening in the camera or more saturation, you are deciding the quality of the Jpeg as well. I shoot RAW+Jpeg that way I have the est of both worlds.
Baydream wrote: Never, EVER, believe a company rep without him/her providing proof to back up their claim. I'm sure that Yugo reps told people they had the best quality ratings.
Baydream wrote: Never, EVER, believe a company rep without him/her providing proof to back up their claim. I'm sure that Yugo reps told people they had the best quality ratings.
I remember in high school I saw a ad for a brand new Yugo for $3200 on sale! I was like wow, here is my chance for a new car. So glad I didn't get!
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Stealthy Ninja wrote: You can change your jpeg processing settings to suit.
From what I've read/observed: Some say Canon processing makes things look plastic. Some say Nikon's NR can't be turned off.
People say Canon mess up reds. Nikon mess up greens. I've personally observed that Nikon messes up purples.
It comes down to personal preference really. Generally speaking Canon do slightly better landscapes and Nikon do skin better (IMHO).
They are different though, there's no doubt about it.
BUT shooting RAW you can get one to match the other using calibration (you need something like a color checker passport to do this).
I very much agree with the landscape/skintone statement. The differences are small, but I like to pixel peep, and here's what I've observed:
At higher ISO's Nikon sensors/processors produce less chroma-noise (color noise) than Canons. At very high ISO's, Nikons have less noise all together and it's more uniform.
Canons produce JPG's that retain slightly more resolution in the very fine details, particularly in the full-frames. This could be because the individual RGB photosites on Canon sensors are smaller.
Nikon and Canon JPG's handle post-processing equally well, but Nikon has a slight edge in processing room for RAW's. This could be because the RGB photosites on Nikons are larger.
Nikons generally make purples kind of bluish.
Nikon and Sony sensors may be the same, but the brands process the data with different algorithms so the photos look different. Sony cameras don't interpolate (anti-alias) as much and there's less moire, but Nikon results have much less noise at higher ISO's.
Nikons in general do more accurate white balance than any other brand.
Canons sometimes oversaturate reds. The best reds IMHO right out of the camera come from Pentax dSLR's.
Nikon processing curve of the darks/shadows is slightly flatter than Canons. This makes for a little less contrast, but more detail is retained and it's better for post-processing.
Each brand has their little quirks in their results, nothing serious enough to warrant favoring one over the other though IMO.
Stealthy Ninja wrote: You can change your jpeg processing settings to suit.
From what I've read/observed: Some say Canon processing makes things look plastic. Some say Nikon's NR can't be turned off.
People say Canon mess up reds. Nikon mess up greens. I've personally observed that Nikon messes up purples.
It comes down to personal preference really. Generally speaking Canon do slightly better landscapes and Nikon do skin better (IMHO).
They are different though, there's no doubt about it.
BUT shooting RAW you can get one to match the other using calibration (you need something like a color checker passport to do this).
I still think it messes up greens, like in grass.
You'll have to show me that purple thing.
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and the last glass of champagne has been drunk
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Baydream wrote: Never, EVER, believe a company rep without him/her providing proof to back up their claim. I'm sure that Yugo reps told people they had the best quality ratings.
Scotty wrote: You'll have to show me that purple thing.
You can see on the left picture (opened with Adobe's "Camera Standard" profile) the purple has a slightly blue look to it (especially in the shadows).
The one ont he right is done with my Color Checker passport corrected setting and is much more accurate to the true colour of the top.
It looks even worse if you see it on the camera (adobe don't do a bad job converting the RAW), so a jpeg would mess it up even worse.
Interesting.
When the last candle has been blown out
and the last glass of champagne has been drunk
All that you are left with are the memories and the images-David Cooke.
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I remember in high school I saw a ad for a brand new Yugo for $3200 on sale! I was like wow, here is my chance for a new car. So glad I didn't get!
