Most effective tool for white balance?

3 months 3 weeks ago #664485 by Pat White
Happy Saturday fellow photographers.  My next challenge is to get a better understanding of white balance and I have noticed a number of tools I see other photographers talking about here.  

1. X-Rite
2. Datacolor Spydercheck
3. Expodisc
4. Grey Cards
5. Color balance lens

What I didn't see is someone talking about which is the best method between all of these.  

Which is the preferred way to get a locked down white balance? 


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3 months 3 weeks ago #664487 by Ozzie_Traveller
G'day Pat

I don't think that there's such a thing as a "locked down" white balance ~ and much understanding may be needed to fully come to terms with the conundrum :)

eg- if you were a studio operator, for technical consistency and repeatible results you would need to 'lock down' the WB to match the lighting used inside the studio - but this setting would not automatically work in another studio, and certainly not outdoors

Things like grey-cards are used [very occasinally] to define exposure in circumstances where questionable lighting might exist. Personally I haven't used a grey card for over 40 years

The Spyder device [to my understanding] is designed to calibrate your monitor to a known baseline so that your work can be consistent in colour quality. Nothing to do with WB directly, but certainly is influenced by WB

For myself - my cameras are set as WB = sunshine for 95% of my day to day stuff - alternating to whatever indoors lighting source I might be shooting under on other occasions. I do not use AWB as I want the camera to follow my ideas rather than it wander thru various WB options that it might think are appropriate

Hope this helps
Phil from the great land Downunder
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3 months 3 weeks ago #664505 by Roman Omell
Lightroom. :) 


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3 months 3 weeks ago #664517 by Nikon Shooter
As said many times before, WB is the less critical
parameter to set prior to SR — shutter release —
both in studio or on location. I use the grey card, it
provides a reference to be used in PP. However, it is
of the greatest importance in post.

WB is a technical reference not a law. I always set it
after DRL but I won't necessarily stick to it when ar-
tistic intent is an option.

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3 months 3 weeks ago #664537 by garyrhook
You're conflating.

The colorimeters are for setting up your monitor for accurate color rendition.

The gray card / expodisk / whatever are for determining temp/tint based on current light conditions.

The two are not mutually exclusive. You'll want to deal with both of those factors, although white balance is somewhat subjective based on the human eye and the light at the time.

I have no clue what a color balance lens is, and haven't needed one to date.


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3 months 3 weeks ago #664540 by Nikon Shooter

Nikon Shooter wrote: WB is the less critical parameter to set prior to SR.



This, of course, applies only to RAW recordings…
I forgot to mention this important point.

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3 months 3 weeks ago #664547 by Pat White
I'm on my cell phone driving right now.  When I get home I'll review these.  Thank you all!


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3 months 3 weeks ago #664574 by garyrhook

Pat White wrote: I'm on my cell phone driving right now.  When I get home I'll review these.  Thank you all!


How are you driving with a cell phone? Are you playing Mario Kart, Asphalt, or some other racing game? Or perhaps it's some new software for your Tesla?

:rofl:

Hoo-boy.

I'm teasing, of course, but you still need a comma in there.


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3 months 3 weeks ago #664575 by Nikon Shooter
What ever the settings of your monitor, the ultimate decision
belongs to your tweaks of the RAW file.

For sure, I you intend to print, proper screen tuning will help
taking the guessing out of the equation.

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3 months 3 weeks ago #664580 by effron

Nikon Shooter wrote: For sure, I you intend to print, proper screen tuning will help
taking the guessing out of the equation.


Its actually vital, especially if you'll be sending the file out for print. 
I usually shoot auto WB, unless its astro photography, or dawn/dusk etc. My camera does a good job, and when it needs adjusting in ACR its usually a simple click or two of my raw file.

Why so serious?
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3 months 3 weeks ago #664633 by Eric A
I keep my white balance pretty much always in auto.  Any corrections that need to be made, I just make those in Lightroom or Adobe Camera RAW. 

My Camera Bag:

Canon 7D | 50mm f/1.2 | 17-40mm f/4 | 70-200mm f/2.8 | 320EX | 580EXII

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3 months 3 weeks ago #664832 by Conner
Pretty much due north for me as well.  I just don't change it in camera these days.  It's the first setting in Lightroom that I'll check and change if need be.  Usually the changes are pretty minor. 


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3 months 3 weeks ago #664842 by effron
It was the long way to the short answer, the WB tool in ACR.....

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3 months 3 weeks ago #664896 by Pat White
Shhhh  don't tell my wife.  I'm so bad about with exploring things with my phone while in my car. 

But saw all your answers, going to review when I get home.  Thank you all!


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3 months 2 weeks ago #665037 by Todd Knight
Yep, pretty same for me as well WB tool in ACR


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