The rule of thirds

12 years 10 months ago #100309 by Baydream

shutter bug wrote:

Malaia101 wrote: I am taking classes through New York Institute of Photography and need help. One of the projects I need to send in is "the rule of thirds". I would like to get some feed back on this photo. I am thinking about sending this one in...what do you think?? Thank you!


Well I for one thinks it's a beautiful shot of a girl who is enjoying the day. For some people just glancing at the picture, they may think it fits into the rule of thirds. I know I did. When I first saw it, I was thinking yea it could work, but as I read the other comments, I don't think it's a true rule of thirds.

I mean, isn't a true rule of thirds nothing is suppose to be center of the frame?

That really "nothing", but the focus of the photo should not be there.

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12 years 10 months ago #100319 by shutter bug

Baydream wrote:

shutter bug wrote:

Malaia101 wrote: I am taking classes through New York Institute of Photography and need help. One of the projects I need to send in is "the rule of thirds". I would like to get some feed back on this photo. I am thinking about sending this one in...what do you think?? Thank you!


Well I for one thinks it's a beautiful shot of a girl who is enjoying the day. For some people just glancing at the picture, they may think it fits into the rule of thirds. I know I did. When I first saw it, I was thinking yea it could work, but as I read the other comments, I don't think it's a true rule of thirds.

I mean, isn't a true rule of thirds nothing is suppose to be center of the frame?

That really "nothing", but the focus of the photo should not be there.


And in this said picture, the focus is in the center of the frame. So in theory it's not rule of thirds.
(sorry if this sounds like a repeating, I am just trying to learn myself) :)


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12 years 10 months ago #100321 by Malaia101
Thank you for all your comments! I understand that the 'rule of thirds' can be a tuff one. I have taken many pictures and always second guess myself. There are so many ways to look at this rule! :blink:


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12 years 10 months ago #100325 by Baydream

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12 years 10 months ago #100333 by shutter bug

Baydream wrote: Check out this video on composition.
www.photographytalk.com/forum/tips-and-t...hy-composition#93221


I don't know if this was direct towards me or the OP but I'll check it out. Thanks. :)


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12 years 10 months ago #100497 by Baydream

shutter bug wrote:

Baydream wrote: Check out this video on composition.
www.photographytalk.com/forum/tips-and-t...hy-composition#93221


I don't know if this was direct towards me or the OP but I'll check it out. Thanks. :)

Actually the OP but it's a good one for all.

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12 years 10 months ago #100565 by Baydream
Sorry about the link I gave. This article is the one I was thinking of:
www.photographytalk.com/photography-arti...-digital-photography

It's on page 26 of 27. Grrr.

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12 years 10 months ago #100787 by Vespista
Thanks for that John; a good, succinct article.


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12 years 10 months ago #102807 by icepics
I think you could just crop the image enough so that her eyes are a third of the way down from the top of the picture (it looks like they're somewhere between a third and halfway down). Looking at the image going horizontally it looks to me like you've got the composition within the rule of thirds.

I don't know for the class if they expect you to use a grid or just 'eyeball' it; guess it depends on the purpose of the lesson. I don't use the grid probably because I learned w/a manual focus camera - where there was no grid! - so I learned how to eyeball it.

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12 years 10 months ago #102817 by Baydream
Hint - shoot a bit wide and crop. That gives you more flexibility to fit the RoT, especially if you don't have to submit a super high res image.

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12 years 10 months ago #102968 by Henry Peach

Malaia101 wrote: There are so many ways to look at this rule! :blink:


The rule of thirds is an exercise intended to get beginners to stop centering everything. It's supposed to get you out of the box, not seal you in another one. It's a pattern to help you start seeing and thinking differently, but you are supposed to move on to a more intuitive sense of composition. I think your photo would be fine for the assignment, although if you had one that had multiple points of interest at several of the thirds that would be even better. For instance imagine a portrait of a mother holding a baby: we might try to put the mother's face at one third point and the baby's face at the one below and diagonal.
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12 years 10 months ago - 12 years 10 months ago #102982 by The Time Capturer

Henry Peach wrote:

Malaia101 wrote: There are so many ways to look at this rule! :blink:


The rule of thirds is an exercise intended to get beginners to stop centering everything. It's supposed to get you out of the box, not seal you in another one. It's a pattern to help you start seeing and thinking differently, but you are supposed to move on to a more intuitive sense of composition. I think your photo would be fine for the assignment, although if you had one that had multiple points of interest at several of the thirds that would be even better. For instance imagine a portrait of a mother holding a baby: we might try to put the mother's face at one third point and the baby's face at the one below and diagonal.


I agree with this. I don't know if they are looking for a technical, measurable grid or just "in the area." I like it the way it is. I like her on the right because she is moving to the left. It's always been my belief that your subject needs somewhere to go, or somewhere to look and if the subject is at the edge of the frame looking outward, that to me doesn't tell the whole story. It leaves the viewer wondering what they're looking at or where they're going.

This is a great captured moment and, in my opinion, you nailed it.

Sure, practice makes perfect but, unless you learn from your mistakes, you are only perfecting your ability to fail.
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12 years 10 months ago #103062 by Malaia101
Thank you guys for all your help. You guys gave me some great insight. I am not sure if i will use this or not. I am going to go back out and take more...after all is this not why why we do what we do...take pictures! You guys gave me a a lot to think about!!! THanks again!:lol:


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12 years 10 months ago #103702 by Henry Peach
For all the talk about the rule of thirds, and other "rules of composition", there have been numerous studies done where the great paintings were sorted through by computers looking for patterns. What they found is that ideas like the rule of thirds, the golden mean, some aspect ratios are better than others, etc... have about as much validity in the real world as astrology.

One pattern that does show up over and over again in famous portrait paintings is that the eye closest to the viewer is often centered horizontally (if you drew a line from top to bottom in the middle the near eye would be placed somewhere on that line).
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