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Photos printing with an ORANGE tint?


12 years 2 months ago - 12 years 2 months ago #203767 by taylorlynn
My gear:
Canon T3i
18-55mm
50mm f/1.8

I edit with Photoshop Elements 8 (Windows) and always shoot in RAW and convert to jpg after editing with Adobe RAW editor.

Anyways... ALL of the pictures I take with my T3i print with an orange tint. I have tested 3 printers and also purchased a calender from a professional company and those were orange as well. They look perfect on the computer but as soon as they're printed, they orange as heck.

I have changed my PSE color profile from "Always Optimize Colors for Computer Screens" to "Always Optimize for Printing" and while the photo on the screen seemed a little more dull, it still printed with an orange tint. I don't even know if this could make a difference or not - I don't understand the whole "profile" thing too much.

I am at a complete loss of what to do and I have stopped shooting for a while just because I can't rely that people will have good "prints." If anyone has any ideas I would so appreciate it!

PLEASE speak "English" - I am very new to photography and editing and don't always understand the lingo that others do.

Thanks!!!
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12 years 2 months ago - 12 years 2 months ago #203775 by Baydream
WOW. Interesting. Have you tried viewing on a different computer and/or monitor. The color on your monitor could really be off and making up think the colors are set correctly. Try grabbing a photo from another camera or download one, adjust the color and print.
It may not be your camera.

In the meantime, I'll scour the T3i manual to look for clues. (I have a XT, an XSi and a 60D, all without color issues).

Do you have the same issue shooting jpegs?


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12 years 2 months ago #203783 by Baydream
According to the manual, in most modes other than Auto,you can set Ambiance Selection (p 67). I forgot to ask. In what mode are you shooting? If you want a fresh start, I believe there is a Reset All Defaults in the menu. That would get you back to Ground Zero.
Then try RAW + JPEG and compare the results.
Let us know about your shooting mode and settings. We love a mystery :huh:
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12 years 2 months ago #203785 by photobod
Is your monitor calibrated ??? or have you checked your camera to see if it is set to something like tungsten or some other white balance maybe, sounds a bit of a mystery but sounds like John is on the case, let us know when you discover the cause of the fault :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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12 years 2 months ago #203787 by taylorlynn
Thanks for the quick response!

Yes, I tried viewing and printing several photos on my husbands macbook pro and got the same results; picture looked fine on the screen, but orange when printed. I even installed my Canon RAW software on his computer and tried editing a RAW photo on his computer and still same result.

When I shoot its generally in full manual mode, but sometimes AV or AP. I have no other settings chosen on my camera like monochrome or whatnot.

In the mean time I will reset my camera settings and try a RAW/JPEG photo.

Thanks!
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12 years 2 months ago #203788 by taylorlynn
Photobod, I did calibrate my PC using the software that comes on it, pretty basic, and it seems fine. I have compared my screen to my husbands and my iPhone and not really any dramatic different.

Thanks!
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12 years 2 months ago - 12 years 2 months ago #203799 by taylorlynn
Just shot a RAW/JPEG photo after resetting all settings on my camera and just as orange as ever =(
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12 years 2 months ago #203813 by Baydream
Oh, me. More questions.
How much difference do you see between the RAW and JPEG?
The JPEG should reflect any camera settings. The RAW would not.

Are you shooting indoors or out? If indoors, what are the lighting conditions? What type of subject matter?

The calibration photobod is talking about is a calibration of the monitor to match the printer. Since you may tried several printers and a commercial printer, it is a mystery. We'll keep looking for possible answers.
If possible, post a photo in this forum. Resize to less than 2mp, then use the Add Photo button to select your shot. Once the file name appears, click the INSERT button. Then Submit. Maybe your photo will contain some clues.
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12 years 2 months ago - 12 years 2 months ago #203834 by taylorlynn
When I look at the two pictures side by side (.cr2 & .jpg) in MyPictures folder they look identical. I didn't set anything in the camera since I reset everything, so other than my chosen settings like ISO, Shutter Speed, etc... everything like the Picture Style and White balance was set to Auto.

I shoot in a variety of locations: indoors, outdoors with all seasons filled weather, many different lighting conditions. I also shoot a variety of subject: stationary objects, portraits, action, nature. But one thing's the same: they all print with the orange tint!

I will mention that I don't think this is a camera issue because I just went back and looked at some printed pictures I took with my T1i and they are orange as well, I just didn't really notice until now because I put a Sepia effect on them so I didn't occur to me right off the printer.

I attached the test photo I took today but I'm not sure what 2mp means... Thanks!!


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12 years 2 months ago #203838 by Joves

taylorlynn wrote: Photobod, I did calibrate my PC using the software that comes on it, pretty basic, and it seems fine. I have compared my screen to my husbands and my iPhone and not really any dramatic different.

Thanks!

For accurate printing from the computer you need to calibrate both the computer monitor and the printer so they are speaking the same language. Calibration takes a special tool to get true colors from the monitor, most monitors are off and what you are seeing is not the way the photo actually looks. I like the Spyder calibrators myself. Granted they are expensive but they are worth every penny if you plan on printing a lot of your photos. I never use the factory software for it because it is never right.
Also which color space are you using is it Adobe RGB or sRGB? It makes a difference as well. An orange cast generally means the WB is off or not set to the correct light temperature.
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12 years 2 months ago #203850 by Baydream
I agree with Joves about the calibration. I don't think that the WB would not be set in the RAW version.

The sun will give this photo a warm cast.

The 2mp reference is to the total size of the image on your computer. The second one took. You can use your software to make a copy of your photo using RESIZE and check the size.
I really suspect a monitor issue.
I know these are "crude" methods but:
Take one of your prints and try to adjust the monitor to match the print. AND/OR
Take the jpeg (no edits) to a one-hour photo place and have them print it WITHOUT corrections. An 8x10 shouldn't cost but $2 to $3. Hold that up to the monitor and adjust.
These are not nearly as good as the Spyder or other devices but something you can try in the meantime.

The two camera outputs match. The various printer outputs match. So the only variable is the monitor.
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12 years 2 months ago #203858 by chasrich
Any trouble shooting method consist of eliminating possible components that might be causing the problem. This is done several ways for example... Take a photo with the camera - do not edit just upload and print. Orange? Take the same image to another system/computer/printer and see if that fixes the problem. By not editing you are verifying that your software settings are NOT the problem. If on the other hand the photo prints fine on your system then there might be a problem in your software or the calibration of the monitor. As frustrating as this might be you will solve the problem if you approach it logically. Hang in there - not giving up is the real key to solving any problem. :thumbsup: :woohoo:


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12 years 2 months ago #203859 by John37
I have the same issue, same exact gear, I'm convinced I need to puchase a color checker passport type thing. Photos look great on screen, then the orange tint when printed. I pay extra attention to WB now, too.
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12 years 2 months ago #203861 by chasrich
Just an after thought... try shooting a test pattern. Something with a calibrated color swatch including white.
“Amateurs worry about equipment, professionals worry about money, masters worry about light, I just make pictures… ” ~ Vernon Trent
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12 years 2 months ago #203871 by digishutterbug
Have you called Canon? They have a really good help desk. Also if there a firmware upgrade that you need to download? If two of you a problem there be a know bug.
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