On the fence and need help - 300mm f/2.8L IS or the 400mm f/2.8L IS?

12 years 8 months ago #125874 by Sawyer
Morning everyone. During the past year I have slowly been getting more and more into sports photography. What I really need is a good lens for volleyball, tennis, football, base ball and basket ball, something with some umffff!

Now I'm shooting with a 5D Mark II and I do have a 70-200mm that I could put a teleconverter on to get some more zoom, but then I fear I compromise lens performance. What I can't decide is whether I should go with the the 300mm f/2.8L IS or the 400mm f/2.8L IS?

Now I was thinking the 400mm might be to much for some of these sports? I have a friend with a 300mm and he loves how light weight it is compared to 500mm lenses that he has rented. Then again he shoots wildlife up in Alaska all year round and not sports!

What do you think? 300mm or 400mm?

Canon 5D Mark II | Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM | Canon 35L | Sigma 85 1.4 | Helios 44M-6 58mm(M42) | Zeiss 50mm 1.4 (C/Y) | Canon 135L | (2) 430EX II
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12 years 8 months ago - 12 years 8 months ago #126176 by MLKstudios
I agree with your friend. Sometimes even an f/4 is the better choice, due to the weight factor. Depends what (and more importantly when) you are shooting.

You can also use a 2x (or 1.4x) on the 300mm when you need more "reach". Won't hurt the speed that much. The 1.4x gives you a 420mm f/4 lens.

I wouldn't use either extender on an f/4 lens though. Well, maybe.

Matthew :)

Matthew L Kees
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12 years 8 months ago #126179 by icepics
You could check out what the pros use - www.sportsshooter.com - in the column on the left see 'Equipment Profiles'.

Sharon
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12 years 8 months ago #126181 by MLKstudios
I enjoyed this:

www.sportsshooter.com/news/2543

My tilt "rule" is it has to add more of the subject. If it's done for no reason (or I have to tilt my head to look at it), then it doesn't work. But if you use a tilt to add more of the figure, like adding the feet or hands, then it's good (and looks natural).

Just my 2¢ :)

Matthew L Kees
MLK Studios Photography School
www.MLKstudios.com
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"Every artist, was once an amateur"

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12 years 8 months ago #126187 by icepics
I get the Sportsshooter newsletter but I haven't even read the most recent one about tilting. I've played around w/it a little, got some weird shots, a couple that were kind of cool. Esp. if my only options were turning the camera to work around people in the way etc. or get a crappy shot w/people's heads in the way. Kind of fun to play around with, seems like it can work sometimes but probably not a technique that would be used a lot.

Sharon
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12 years 8 months ago - 12 years 8 months ago #126189 by MLKstudios
It works sometimes. I've seen wedding photographers (so called) who use it EVERY shot. No thank you. I want some leveled.

Learning about the diagonal line in composition too early is the same as learning the rule of thirds. They tend to use it ALL the time.

:)

Matthew L Kees
MLK Studios Photography School
www.MLKstudios.com
[email protected]
"Every artist, was once an amateur"

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12 years 8 months ago #126233 by Sawyer
Interesting, it looks like most are using the 400mm? My wallet was kind of hoping I would get a landslide of votes for the 300mm :whistle:

Canon 5D Mark II | Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM | Canon 35L | Sigma 85 1.4 | Helios 44M-6 58mm(M42) | Zeiss 50mm 1.4 (C/Y) | Canon 135L | (2) 430EX II
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12 years 8 months ago #126239 by Baydream
It seems to depend on WHERE you will be shooting. 400 might be overkill from the sideline of a basketball game but better if you are shooting from the stands. For football, the 400 might be better since much of the action if not close up.
Like in real estate - location, location, location.

Shoot, learn and share. It will make you a better photographer.
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12 years 8 months ago - 12 years 8 months ago #126311 by Scotty
Get the 300 and a TC 1.4x and call it a day.

I've shot with both. I wouldn't get the 400 f/2.8 unless I had to use the FL. It makes a great hat though.




I love love LOVE the 300 f/2.8. With a TC 1.4 you barely lose any quality and you don't lose a lot of light.

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