Mentoring groups vs internet interaction?

13 years 3 months ago #15306 by Scotty

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

bhowdy wrote: And by posting images on photo critic boards. Some of these boards are bland with people posting the same tired old comments over and over and over .... But there are some really nice folks that take the time to offer well thought out and thoughtful comments.


I agree. The old "this photo's great no matter what" stuff is basically useless. :)


Pretty much, tough love makes you learn the most.

When the last candle has been blown out
and the last glass of champagne has been drunk
All that you are left with are the memories and the images-David Cooke.

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13 years 3 months ago #15353 by Stealthy Ninja

Scotty wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

bhowdy wrote: And by posting images on photo critic boards. Some of these boards are bland with people posting the same tired old comments over and over and over .... But there are some really nice folks that take the time to offer well thought out and thoughtful comments.


I agree. The old "this photo's great no matter what" stuff is basically useless. :)


Pretty much, tough love makes you learn the most.


A good spanking goes a long way. ;)
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13 years 3 months ago #15360 by Scotty

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

bhowdy wrote: And by posting images on photo critic boards. Some of these boards are bland with people posting the same tired old comments over and over and over .... But there are some really nice folks that take the time to offer well thought out and thoughtful comments.


I agree. The old "this photo's great no matter what" stuff is basically useless. :)


Pretty much, tough love makes you learn the most.


A good spanking goes a long way. ;)

:ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:

When the last candle has been blown out
and the last glass of champagne has been drunk
All that you are left with are the memories and the images-David Cooke.

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13 years 3 months ago #15364 by Stealthy Ninja

Scotty wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

bhowdy wrote: And by posting images on photo critic boards. Some of these boards are bland with people posting the same tired old comments over and over and over .... But there are some really nice folks that take the time to offer well thought out and thoughtful comments.


I agree. The old "this photo's great no matter what" stuff is basically useless. :)


Pretty much, tough love makes you learn the most.


A good spanking goes a long way. ;)

:ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:


:whistle:
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13 years 3 months ago #15603 by crystal

bhowdy wrote: I would have to go with internet first ....... Lots of good videos if you go searching. But I also have gained a good deal of knowledge for going out with another photographer. Photo groups just don't work for me. I do belong to a couple of groups but they are more for fun and the social aspect, not so much for the educational part.

I also learn tons by looking at other folks photos ... I study how they compose certain images ... what seems to work, what looks good, what looks unusual (important because unusual is not necessarily a bad thing) ....

And by posting images on photo critic boards. Some of these boards are bland with people posting the same tired old comments over and over and over .... But there are some really nice folks that take the time to offer well thought out and thoughtful comments.


I agree. I belong to a photo group, but it's not about learning. Actually there is no "teaching" each other it's more about fun, like you said.. social aspect.
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13 years 3 months ago #15604 by crystal

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

bhowdy wrote: And by posting images on photo critic boards. Some of these boards are bland with people posting the same tired old comments over and over and over .... But there are some really nice folks that take the time to offer well thought out and thoughtful comments.


I agree. The old "this photo's great no matter what" stuff is basically useless. :)


I agree. It doesn't do any good. One does not learn from "Nice photo".

I know someone who can not take a good CC and learn from it. She whines that people are picking on her.
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13 years 3 months ago #15605 by crystal

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

bhowdy wrote: And by posting images on photo critic boards. Some of these boards are bland with people posting the same tired old comments over and over and over .... But there are some really nice folks that take the time to offer well thought out and thoughtful comments.


I agree. The old "this photo's great no matter what" stuff is basically useless. :)


Pretty much, tough love makes you learn the most.


A good spanking goes a long way. ;)


Oh baby. :ohmy: :whistle:
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13 years 3 months ago #15678 by Scotty

cwightmanphotos wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

bhowdy wrote: And by posting images on photo critic boards. Some of these boards are bland with people posting the same tired old comments over and over and over .... But there are some really nice folks that take the time to offer well thought out and thoughtful comments.


I agree. The old "this photo's great no matter what" stuff is basically useless. :)


Pretty much, tough love makes you learn the most.


A good spanking goes a long way. ;)


Oh baby. :ohmy: :whistle:

:kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

When the last candle has been blown out
and the last glass of champagne has been drunk
All that you are left with are the memories and the images-David Cooke.

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13 years 3 months ago #16654 by Stealthy Ninja

Scotty wrote:

cwightmanphotos wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

bhowdy wrote: And by posting images on photo critic boards. Some of these boards are bland with people posting the same tired old comments over and over and over .... But there are some really nice folks that take the time to offer well thought out and thoughtful comments.


I agree. The old "this photo's great no matter what" stuff is basically useless. :)


Pretty much, tough love makes you learn the most.


A good spanking goes a long way. ;)


Oh baby. :ohmy: :whistle:

:kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

:S
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13 years 3 months ago #17209 by dotell
Personally, there's nothing I find more satisfying than finding a mentor or friend who can help guide me in whatever I am pursuing. The internet and e-publications do help, I agree, and yes, I enjoy websites like this one, too, but for me, the one-on-one, personal approach to learning works best.

Give me a 3 or 4 day retreat with other like-minded photographers who believe in sharing their knowledge and experiences.


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13 years 3 months ago #17216 by Stealthy Ninja

dotell wrote: Personally, there's nothing I find more satisfying than finding a mentor or friend who can help guide me in whatever I am pursuing. The internet and e-publications do help, I agree, and yes, I enjoy websites like this one, too, but for me, the one-on-one, personal approach to learning works best.

Give me a 3 or 4 day retreat with other like-minded photographers who believe in sharing their knowledge and experiences.


Real life scares me. :dry:
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13 years 3 months ago #17221 by johnm
Perhaps my age is showing a bit, but I find online classes difficult. So I'll come down on the side of personal mentoring on this question.

In my early days, I worked for a big shot photographer in NYC, along with 2 other assistants. The 3 of us would get together after work and talk about how our boss worked - his techniques and tricks. We'd challenge each other to be better as we developed our own style.


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13 years 3 months ago #17237 by Baydream
The photo clubs I belong to have both been a great help. The larger one (in the States) has "evaluation"nights every other month where a pro photog gives honest critiques of several of our photos. The brutal honesty has made me a better photographer. The small club in Canada has an annual photo contest where it is "open judging" much like the evals down here. A thick skin and an open mind is your best friend.
That said, I also learn a lot from the "net". Shooting with others in the clubs lets me observe new (to me) ways to shoot and we teach each other, and have fun. There are several professional photographers in each club so we get good material.

Ding. Ding. The answer is both. :P

Shoot, learn and share. It will make you a better photographer.
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13 years 3 months ago #17249 by Stealthy Ninja

Baydream wrote: The photo clubs I belong to have both been a great help. The larger one (in the States) has "evaluation"nights every other month where a pro photog gives honest critiques of several of our photos. The brutal honesty has made me a better photographer. The small club in Canada has an annual photo contest where it is "open judging" much like the evals down here. A thick skin and an open mind is your best friend.
That said, I also learn a lot from the "net". Shooting with others in the clubs lets me observe new (to me) ways to shoot and we teach each other, and have fun. There are several professional photographers in each club so we get good material.

Ding. Ding. The answer is both. :P


RUN FOR CONGRESS!!!11 :woohoo:
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13 years 3 months ago #17259 by Baydream

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

Baydream wrote: The photo clubs I belong to have both been a great help. The larger one (in the States) has "evaluation"nights every other month where a pro photog gives honest critiques of several of our photos. The brutal honesty has made me a better photographer. The small club in Canada has an annual photo contest where it is "open judging" much like the evals down here. A thick skin and an open mind is your best friend.
That said, I also learn a lot from the "net". Shooting with others in the clubs lets me observe new (to me) ways to shoot and we teach each other, and have fun. There are several professional photographers in each club so we get good material.

Ding. Ding. The answer is both. :P


RUN FOR CONGRESS!!!11 :woohoo:


Too honest (and I hope too smart). Mark Twain said it best.
"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native criminal class except Congress." and
"Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself."

Shoot, learn and share. It will make you a better photographer.
fineartamerica.com/profiles/john-g-schickler.html?tab=artwork

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