Downtown Crossing ‘Street Photographers’ Crossing The Line?

12 years 7 months ago - 12 years 7 months ago #152207 by Henry Peach
I do think it's somewhat cowardly not wanting to be photographed/recorded (the photographers that is), but I run into that among photographers all the time. I'm not often thrilled by the way I look in photos and vids, but I figure it's my karmic debt to allow people to photograph me.

It's a troubling situation. One bad apple can spoil it for the rest of us, but I think that happens in a lot of situations. I know that most police officers are doing an excellent job, but when one crosses the line it makes me suspect them all.
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12 years 7 months ago #152218 by geoffellis
havent watched the video... only have a cellular 3G connection... but ive read both articles

personal opinion on the matter, is street photography is fine. but be discrete, or involve the subject before (if possible)/after youve gotten the "shot" you want

otherwise doesnt matter if your holding a 10,000$ camera or a cellphone. get aggressive in my face repeatedly and ill be telling the police that he tripped me and my head just caught him in the nose. or my elbow just happened to land on his clavicle. And no. I wont go to jail lol.
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12 years 7 months ago #152220 by Jeanne Merlo
I think those guys are idiots


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12 years 7 months ago #152222 by Baydream

Henry Peach wrote: but when one crosses the line it makes me suspect them all.

Photographers or Policemen?

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12 years 7 months ago #152224 by Dori

Baydream wrote:

Henry Peach wrote: but when one crosses the line it makes me suspect them all.

Photographers or Policemen?

Both

Don't pi$$ me off, I am running out of room to store the bodies...

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12 years 7 months ago #153249 by Casey T
I'm shaking my head at this one :owned:

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12 years 7 months ago #153269 by icepics
Those don't look like street photographers. Notice how they take pictures - they don't compose a shot, they just snap quick and drop the camera down (and appear to try to take a picture fast and keep going before anyone notices what they just did). They were evasive, didn't want their pictures taken, couldn't seem to explain what they were doing - that indicates they're doing something they know they shouldn't be doing.

At most the police probably can only patrol and monitor the situation. Eventually maybe they'll get caught doing something illegal that will get them off the streets. It would be interesting if someone interviewed them and asked some questions about photography - wonder how much they would know about it (probably not much).

Sharon
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12 years 7 months ago #153459 by Foxy Girl
I agree with Icepics, these are just idiots with a camera snapping random perverted shots.


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12 years 7 months ago - 12 years 7 months ago #153483 by Stealthy Ninja
OK how many of you guys actually have done street photography?

You stand around looking left and right for interesting subjects to shoot. Then you shoot them as discreetly as you can (so they don't stare at you and spoil the candid moment) then you move onto the next subject. It's not perverted, it's just the way you do it.

The problem here is the tabloid journalism used:

"Hunt down women and children" etc. is just the TV's way of getting you to think the way they do. :whistle: :pinch:

I mean the freakin' "report" starts out with:
"It's strange behavior. It's raising red flags in down-town Boston"

There's ya clue that the rest of the report is full of half truths.

He even says they're taking "unusual (with emphasis) picture of people going by" HOW DOES HE KNOW THAT? Utter BS man. Why because a guy was "quietly crouching behind a group of women taking pictures of what, looks like, bare legs." WHAT?! Again that's his dirty thoughts, how does he know the photographers intentions.

The real perverts use cell phones and hidden cams. These guys are just normal street photographers. Sheesh. The media sucks.

You guys should be more worried about the media demonizing photographer than these guys giving people a bad name.

In fact they could probably sue the TV station for this.

Steven Swanson wrote: These photographers have some serious issues. How can they not know what they are doing is awfully wrong??


You're doing EXACTLY what the so called "journalists" have done with this story. Loaded the opinions before people even get to see what the video is about.
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12 years 7 months ago #153487 by Stealthy Ninja
Reply from the photographers in question:
thephotorecession.webs.com/
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12 years 7 months ago #153491 by Scotty

Stealthy Ninja wrote: Reply from the photographers in question:
thephotorecession.webs.com/


Those shots are actually pretty damn good.

When the last candle has been blown out
and the last glass of champagne has been drunk
All that you are left with are the memories and the images-David Cooke.

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12 years 7 months ago - 12 years 7 months ago #153492 by Stealthy Ninja

Scotty wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote: Reply from the photographers in question:
thephotorecession.webs.com/


Those shots are actually pretty damn good.


How can that be though Scotty? Aren't they just perverts with cameras? LOL

The OP video is really a typical example of how the media manufacture stories.
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12 years 7 months ago #153493 by chasrich
:agree:

“Amateurs worry about equipment, professionals worry about money, masters worry about light, I just make pictures… ” ~ Vernon Trent
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12 years 7 months ago #153499 by Stealthy Ninja

mj~shutterbugg wrote: I want to take the photographers side, really I do- but they we're acting cowardly and that raised a red flag with me. If you are a legit photographer doing street photography, wouldn't you WANT exposure so you could promote your work? If that were me- I would be handing out business cards saying check my stuff out- see what I can do! They were hiding asking them to turn the camera off and acted really funny when confronted by a news crew. These camera operators had zooms, there was zero need to go up for a macro between some person's legs. The public is highly bothered by them, and while it is legal it isn't nice.


Well true you might not like it, but it doesn't change the fact that this was tabloid and ambush journalism. The "reporters" need to be ashamed for bring... oh they're journalists, they have no shame. LOL

Also, how would you respond if you were taking pictures somewhere and a news crew ambushed you?! :whistle:

They say they don't like to be photographed and then they cut to the guy asking them to turn the camera off. For all we know the journalist has just accused him of being a pedophile or something. I mean the guy did say the "journalist" kept hammering on them about taking photos of kids and women... HEAVY editing is another clue there's something wrong with the story.
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12 years 7 months ago #153519 by icepics
Those photos are not by the so-called street photographers. They are by someone named Joe Gallo. On the Photo Recession website he references a photographer named Lisset Model and has one of her photos on the site. Otherwise he indicates the photos are his.

On another section of the site he says he started the site as a response to WBZ's story on the supposed street photographers. He has info. about himself, photographers rights, and an invitation to an exhibit. There is nothing under Blog or Gallery.

In the video by the Boston TV station you can see one of the so-called photographers move behind a group of women and bend over and take a picture. It appears to be done without their knowlege.

MJ's instincts seem to be appropriate to the situation, that these photographers' behavior is a red flag.

Sharon
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