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12 years 5 months ago - 12 years 5 months ago #174769 by messyjessy8
If you take pictures with someone else's camera, according to copyright laws, who own the pictures??
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12 years 5 months ago #174778 by Saywhat11
I would say, you owned the pictures, because you took them, but I really do not know for sure.
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12 years 5 months ago #174784 by butterflygirl921
That's a hard question. I wouldn't know who owns the photo i would say it's you since you took the photo.
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12 years 5 months ago #174807 by messyjessy8
That is what I am thinking, but part of me also thinks...the camera belongs to the other person, so they own the copyrights. Like I can see it both ways.
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12 years 5 months ago #174853 by icepics
Try looking up copyright info. on professional photographer association's websites, like ASMP. They have some resources just for members but have some available to the public.
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12 years 5 months ago #174855 by effron
What did you agree on? I used to do concert and event photography for a pro who overbooked much work, which was good for me. We had an agreement, his gear or mine (his was better, but not always available) the film was supplied and ALL photos belonged to him. I got press/photographer passes, and was paid for the work, so it was a good deal. I believe, unless otherwise stated, the photos belong to the camera owner.......:unsure:
Why so serious?
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12 years 5 months ago #174961 by steveheap
I'm 99% sure that you own the rights to the image - you took it. There is a case floating about where a nature photographer let a monkey hold his camera and it took a picture of itself. There were a lot of comments that the monkey actually owned the copyright and the photographer was not really able to license the image!

Of course it was all a bit tongue in cheek, but it explained some of the issues involved.

At the end of the day, the image is an artistic rendition of a subject, and you chose the subject and the way it would be taken, and so you have the copyright.

Now if the camera was on a tripod and the whole picture was set up by the owner of the camera and he/she framed the picture, and you just pushed the shutter release, then I think that would be the 1% uncertainty in my answer!

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12 years 5 months ago #174962 by steveheap
Here is the link to the monkey story :

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12 years 5 months ago #174983 by geoffellis
Would a painter own the copyright if he used someone else's brushes to paint?

Would a woodworker own the copyright if he used someone else's knives to carve?

Would a sculptor own the copyright if he used someone else's chisels to sculpt?

Would a graphic artist own the copyright if he used someone else's computer to draw?

Would a musician own the copyright if he used someone else's guitar to compose?

Im sure i could go on... but i bet you get the picture. I find it difficult to believe anyone would answer no to the above questions... so

Would a photographer own the copyright if he used someone else's camera to take a picture

becomes quite a simple question to answer. it has nothing to do with who bought the equipment. Its about who created the art. its a completely separate matter though if there was a written agreement to provide a service for a sponsor who provided the equipment though.
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12 years 5 months ago #174985 by Dori
:goodpost:
Don't pi$$ me off, I am running out of room to store the bodies...

Resident Texasotan...
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12 years 5 months ago - 12 years 5 months ago #175000 by orion
This is a good subject because i dont know either and this is the reason why -

I used to work as a photographer for the Fire Service in the UK. The Fire Service provided all the equipment and film. WE, the photographers had to compose the pictures, see the horrible sites, set equipment up and press the shutter. But at the end of the day I was told that the photos belonged to the Fire Service. Even tho I took the photos. The Fire Service STILL use the photos I took.
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12 years 5 months ago #175003 by geoffellis

orion wrote: This is a good subject because i dont know and this is the reason why -

I used to work as a photographer for the Fire Service in the UK. The Fire Service provided all the equipment and film. WE, the photographers had to compose the pictures, see the horrible sites, set equipment up and press the shutter. But at the end of the day I was told that the photos belonged to the Fire Service. Even tho I took the photos. The Fire Service STILL use the photos I took.


The key to that statement is "work as a photographer". As in you were paid to provide the service. Now i dont know the specifics of UK law... but most commonwealth countries have similar laws that are derivative of uk/british "common" law. And the laws im familar with generally state employed photographers do not own the copyright, their employer does. this is not the same as if you were working as a freelancer/contractor.... But the context of your post makes it seem like you were an employee, not a freelancer. As such, you would not own the copyright.
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12 years 5 months ago - 12 years 5 months ago #175006 by Gary Trent photography
You do .... no questions.
If someone else takes pix on your equipment the THEY own it.
There are many sites to look into.
Just Google "copyright"
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12 years 5 months ago #175009 by Gary Trent photography
Say if you rented a fish-eye lens from a store and took the world's greatest
photo with it and made a million $$$; would the store owner have a right
to that image and want YOUR credit for it?
No.
YOU took the image and IT belongs to YOU !
(now you might be polite & pay extra rent for using his lens ... lol)
You should have it registered properly and there is a free site to do that as well.
YOU (or your estate) will own that image 50 years after you die.
That's what a copy right is .... go study this on the net ---->
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12 years 5 months ago #175013 by effron
My images are imbedded with my copyright, it is part of my exif data. Whether I loan you my camera, I lose it and you find it, or someone steals it, my copyright will be embedded in those images. Now you can change the copyright in camera, but you CANNOT change the serial number of the camera.
The OP doesn't give any details as to why he'd be using another person's camera, so there is a lot of jumping to conclusions here. Very interesting subject, I'd like to hear more......;)
Why so serious?
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