Manual mode vs aperture priority.

I love threads like this.  Talk about stirring the pot!     Me, I use Aperture and Manual nearly all the time. 

Farestad wrote: I love threads like this.  Talk about stirring the pot!     Me, I use Aperture and Manual nearly all the time. 

It's all about the green box. 

What green box?  

Scotty wrote:

butterflygirl921 wrote:

Allen D wrote: Frankly I think shooting in Auto works the best

Sometimes i do this too when i need to just get some quick pictures.  Or i do the most horrific thing and use my Iphone 

lol sinner!

We all sin and fall short of the glory of Ken Rockwell.

Fishtaco wrote: What green box?  

I know with some I will get in trouble.
Here is the Green Box

For those of you aspiring Nat Geo photographers who want to learn something from PT and feel you are being dry humped by the 'I always shoot in manual' brigade,  take a good look at this  and carve it into your brain

OMG so bad, but that photo caught me off guard

william_cpa wrote: For those of you aspiring Nat Geo photographers who want to learn something from PT and feel you are being dry humped by the 'I always shoot in manual' brigade,  take a good look at this  and carve it into your brain

OMG let it go. There's nothing there that hasn't been discussed already in this thread.

A tenacious adherence to aperture-priority mode, despite clear, sanguine explanations as to the advantages of alternatives, doesn't make one right, it means one has a preference, albeit a strong one. That's fine, but it doesn't make everyone else wrong.

garyrhook wrote:

william_cpa wrote: For those of you aspiring Nat Geo photographers who want to learn something from PT and feel you are being dry humped by the 'I always shoot in manual' brigade,  take a good look at this  and carve it into your brain

OMG let it go. There's nothing there that hasn't been discussed already in this thread.

A tenacious adherence to aperture-priority mode, despite clear, sanguine explanations as to the advantages of alternatives, doesn't make one right, it means one has a preference, albeit a strong one. That's fine, but it doesn't make everyone else wrong.

It is discussed there by somebody who is recognized as being one of the best in the world. It is discussed here by those who's resumes are distinctly lacking in such accolades.

A tenacious adherence to manual mode, despite clear, sanguine explanations as to the advantages of alternatives, doesn't make one right, it means one has a preference, albeit a strong one. That's fine, but it doesn't make everyone else wrong.

garyrhook wrote: The camera doesn't know what the hell I want. Why would I let it make any of the decisions? Why is that so difficult to understand? There is no mode other than manual that achieves that.

If it was correct, Gary, then we could understand it.

I have never advocated strict adherence to any mode. You have. Show me where I have advocated only using AP or admit you made it up. I have only pointed out the irresponsible nature of claiming that any particular mode is 'the only mode that allows me to fulfill my vision'. It is highly misleading to beginners here and patently false, especially since you have already informed us that you do not know how to use your camera in AP mode.



garyrhook wrote: So you're suggesting that, instead of futzing with the aperture control, it's more convenient to futz with exposure compensation?

I don't think that makes any sense at all. On my camera exposure compensation is a pain to get to, to I never use it. Easier to stick to the basic triangle, thankyouverymuch.

Now Gary, you know that little button you press so that you can adjust your aperture in MM? It is the exact same button you press to adjust exposure compensation in SP or AP.

There can, therefore, be no reasonable explanation for hijacking threads and puffing out your chest to pronounce 'I always shoot in MM' .

Edit: BTW, in case you feel I 'have it in for you', the vast majority of your posts show a commitment to helping others with highly intelligent and succinct advice

william_cpa wrote: ...Now Gary, you know that little button you press so that you can adjust your aperture in MM? It is the exact same button you press to adjust exposure compensation in SP or AP.... 

No, it is not.  When in Manual Mode, my aperture is adjusted by the Front Dial, which I work with a finger.  Shutter speed is adjusted by the Rear Dial, which I work with my thumb.  There is no button involved.  It is very easy to work both dials together with finger and thumb and so it is very easy to dial in any over/under.  Quicker than AP with EC too!

I probably work in AP most of the time.  Because, most of the time, aperture is my priority.  But, when EC is required, I'll go to manual because I can easily do the over/under ...quicker, without fumbling around for another button, and without taking my eye from the viewfinder.

william_cpa wrote: For those of you aspiring Nat Geo photographers who want to learn something from PT and feel you are being dry humped by the 'I always shoot in manual' brigade,  take a good look at this  and carve it into your brain

None of this means anything if you're doing studio/commercial work.

such as this.


http://www.davehill.com

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

Scotty wrote:

butterflygirl921 wrote:

Allen D wrote: Frankly I think shooting in Auto works the best

Sometimes i do this too when i need to just get some quick pictures.  Or i do the most horrific thing and use my Iphone 

lol sinner!

We all sin and fall short of the glory of Ken Rockwell.

We def do all sin once in a while 

william_cpa wrote:

garyrhook wrote:

william_cpa wrote: For those of you aspiring Nat Geo photographers who want to learn something from PT and feel you are being dry humped by the 'I always shoot in manual' brigade,  take a good look at this  and carve it into your brain

OMG let it go. There's nothing there that hasn't been discussed already in this thread.

A tenacious adherence to aperture-priority mode, despite clear, sanguine explanations as to the advantages of alternatives, doesn't make one right, it means one has a preference, albeit a strong one. That's fine, but it doesn't make everyone else wrong.

It is discussed there by somebody who is recognized as being one of the best in the world. It is discussed here by those who's resumes are distinctly lacking in such accolades.

A tenacious adherence to manual mode, despite clear, sanguine explanations as to the advantages of alternatives, doesn't make one right, it means one has a preference, albeit a strong one. That's fine, but it doesn't make everyone else wrong.

garyrhook wrote: The camera doesn't know what the hell I want. Why would I let it make any of the decisions? Why is that so difficult to understand? There is no mode other than manual that achieves that.

If it was correct, Gary, then we could understand it.

I have never advocated strict adherence to any mode. You have. Show me where I have advocated only using AP or admit you made it up. I have only pointed out the irresponsible nature of claiming that any particular mode is 'the only mode that allows me to fulfill my vision'. It is highly misleading to beginners here and patently false, especially since you have already informed us that you do not know how to use your camera in AP mode.



garyrhook wrote: So you're suggesting that, instead of futzing with the aperture control, it's more convenient to futz with exposure compensation?

I don't think that makes any sense at all. On my camera exposure compensation is a pain to get to, to I never use it. Easier to stick to the basic triangle, thankyouverymuch.

Now Gary, you know that little button you press so that you can adjust your aperture in MM? It is the exact same button you press to adjust exposure compensation in SP or AP.

There can, therefore, be no reasonable explanation for hijacking threads and puffing out your chest to pronounce 'I always shoot in MM' .

Edit: BTW, in case you feel I 'have it in for you', the vast majority of your posts show a commitment to helping others with highly intelligent and succinct advice

"Facepalm" would you just give it up dude! REALLY!

hghlndr6 wrote:

william_cpa wrote: ...Now Gary, you know that little button you press so that you can adjust your aperture in MM? It is the exact same button you press to adjust exposure compensation in SP or AP.... 

No, it is not.  When in Manual Mode, my aperture is adjusted by the Front Dial, which I work with a finger.  Shutter speed is adjusted by the Rear Dial, which I work with my thumb.  There is no button involved.  It is very easy to work both dials together with finger and thumb and so it is very easy to dial in any over/under.  Quicker than AP with EC too!

I probably work in AP most of the time.  Because, most of the time, aperture is my priority.  But, when EC is required, I'll go to manual because I can easily do the over/under ...quicker, without fumbling around for another button, and without taking my eye from the viewfinder.

I appreciate this is the case for your camera. Gary has a D5100 with only one command dial.