RAW vs Jpeg (All in one thread)

12 years 6 months ago - 12 years 6 months ago #151577 by photobod

Stealthy Ninja wrote: Another thread added...

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With all due respect Adrian shouldnt you be asking the originator of the thread if he/she wants it to be combined, isnt it there right in a democracy to have there own thread out there, you are assuming that everyone wants to go to one large thread for info, this site after all is about us all interacting and helping each other.
This an observation not a complaint by the way, I can see your purpose in what you are doing.

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12 years 6 months ago #151727 by MYoung
Another question. I'm reading some of your post and saw a thread talking about shooting in JPG vs RAW. But what I didn't understand is what does RAW photos do? What is the purpose of a RAW photo?

I found in my manual how to change the settings on my D7000 to shoot in RAW, but not getting clear answer on what does a RAW photo do for me?

Thank you


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12 years 6 months ago - 12 years 6 months ago #151730 by MLKstudios
A JPEG is a processed image (using the camera's own processing chip). RAW is a digital negative. The file is bigger, contains more "data" and can be processed by YOU in post to bring out the best it has.

Many ask which one is "better"? That's easy. RAW is better than JPEG.

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12 years 6 months ago #151787 by VT Hiker

MYoung wrote: what does a RAW photo do for me?

Fulfill your wildest photography dreams. It's more magical than fairy dust. :lol:

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12 years 6 months ago #151802 by Joves
As Matthew said the RAW id a digital negative and can be processed more if needed, with in reason though, if a shot is totally screwed then it wont fix that. I shoot RAW+ Jpeg Fine, that way if it only needs some minor touches then I touch up the Jpeg, if it needs a little more work then I process the RAW. Also RAW is an original file and for Copyright protection it will prove your case because it is a file that the offender will not have.


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12 years 6 months ago #152121 by Monra
RAW photo can be processed more than JPG image. A RAW file has more information

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12 years 6 months ago #152141 by robbie
There are lots of info on the most popular questions here.....
www.photographytalk.com/forum/new-to-pho...re-starting-a-thread
Enjoy and.....:welcomeclan


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12 years 6 months ago - 12 years 6 months ago #152198 by Henry Peach
Having the raw file gives you access to all the information captured by the camera for an exposure.

Even when your camera is set to jpeg it starts with this raw data, but then it processes the raw data into a jpeg according to the in-camera processing parameters you have set (or the factory defaults). The original raw data is not saved, only the finished jpeg.

If you have your camera set to raw or raw + jpeg it saves the original raw data.

There are several reasons starting with a raw file has the potential to be better than starting with a jpeg.

1) You have all the information possible. Some data is discarded in the jpeg processing, and this is not recoverable if it turns out later you need/want it. Whether this discarded information is important or not just depends, but with raw it's there. At any time you can go back to any step in the processing and change it or start over. The original raw file is never changed. A sidecar file that contains your processing instructions is where the changes are made.

2) Processing by inspection. You get to process the raw file as you look at it with your own eyeballs. If you have a correctly calibrated monitor it's pretty much a what you see is what you get situation.

3) Processing power. It is easy to find photo processing software that is more sophisticated and offers more options and control than the in-camera processing software.

4) Skill. With some study and practice you can probably learn to do a better job than the in-camera software does on it's own.

So raw vs jpeg is really just a choice of what tools you are using to do the processing. Raw is not better on it's own. The right tools and skill using them are usually required to get superior results from a raw file.

Having a raw file is like having all the ingredients to make a cake. You can mix up teh recipe as you wish, and if you need to try again just start over. The jpeg is like having the ingredients already mixed together or cooked, but not the individual raw ingrdients. There may be some changes you can make to the flavor, but you are limited to working with what you have. There is no starting over.
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12 years 6 months ago #152530 by icepics
Good question - I'm still learning the digital technology. Comparing RAW to a negative helps, being able to relate it to what I've done in the darkroom turned on a lightbulb for me.

So what type of information does the jpeg process discard?

Sharon
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12 years 6 months ago - 12 years 6 months ago #152544 by Stealthy Ninja

robbie wrote: There are lots of info on the most popular questions here.....
www.photographytalk.com/forum/new-to-pho...re-starting-a-thread
Enjoy and.....:welcomeclan


I agree... I don't want to be mean, but if you were reading the other RAW vs Jpeg thread you should know what a RAW file does.

It's almost like you just wanted to start another thread. :dry:

If you want to further discuss this, please go here:
www.photographytalk.com/forum/photograph...eg-all-in-one-thread
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12 years 6 months ago - 12 years 6 months ago #152547 by Stealthy Ninja

photobod wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote: Another thread added...

Please visit here before posting a new thread:
www.photographytalk.com/forum/new-to-pho...ting-a-thread#124574

Thanks: :)[/quot

With all due respect Adrian shouldnt you be asking the originator of the thread if he/she wants it to be combined, isnt it there right in a democracy to have there own thread out there, you are assuming that everyone wants to go to one large thread for info, this site after all is about us all interacting and helping each other.
This an observation not a complaint by the way, I can see your purpose in what you are doing.

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Combining threads like this is very common practice on forums.

I specifically made a thread (linked in my signature and stickied in the beginners section) that has many RAW vs Jpeg style threads. There is and there was no need for a new one.

So to answer your question. No I don't need to ask them first, they should have looked about a bit first.

If the question is reasonably original I won't combine the thread, but we've had around 10 threads on the topic now and that is just messy.

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12 years 6 months ago #152550 by Stealthy Ninja
I've just stickied this thread so it won't get lost at the bottom of the Photography General Talk section.

Enjoy.
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12 years 6 months ago - 12 years 6 months ago #152577 by icepics
Hey the OP is fairly new to the board and maybe didn't see the other thread. I find it hard myself to go through a long thread that's several pages to try to find some information. Although I see the point of posting it as a sticky to avoid the same questions over and over. Besides this is posted in the Beginner section so people don't have to look here if they don't want to read or answer beginner level questions.

Sharon
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12 years 6 months ago #152620 by effron
So, which is better, raw or jpeg????:P

Why so serious?
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12 years 6 months ago #152638 by photobod

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

photobod wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote: Another thread added...

Please visit here before posting a new thread:
www.photographytalk.com/forum/new-to-pho...ting-a-thread#124574

Thanks: :)[/quot

With all due respect Adrian shouldnt you be asking the originator of the thread if he/she wants it to be combined, isnt it there right in a democracy to have there own thread out there, you are assuming that everyone wants to go to one large thread for info, this site after all is about us all interacting and helping each other.
This an observation not a complaint by the way, I can see your purpose in what you are doing.

:whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :toocrazy: :banana: :thumbsup:


Combining threads like this is very common practice on forums.

I specifically made a thread (linked in my signature and stickied in the beginners section) that has many RAW vs Jpeg style threads. There is and there was no need for a new one.

So to answer your question. No I don't need to ask them first, they should have looked about a bit first.

If the question is reasonably original I won't combine the thread, but we've had around 10 threads on the topic now and that is just messy.


I know you dont need to ask but isnt it just a courteous thing to do as this is the most friendly forum regarding photography, as I said it wasnt a complaint just an observation. as I said people like to have their own threads it makes them feel as though they are contributing positively, plus they may want the extra points !!, looking around isnt always easy as some of these threads disappear to the back pages very quickly and I know you will say they can go into a particular area to find it, but its my bet that most people on here will click on recent topics and go through a few pages depending on how much time they have, its just human nature. :toocrazy: :toocrazy: :toocrazy:


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