Contest winners

Ok, since I started this thread I need to also comment. I only submitted 15 photos since I got in kind of midpoint of the contest and I only submit my best. I did notice there was just a lot of snap shot type photos entered and I figured it was to rack up points which is great and I would think the judges would pick the best out of their photos , comments etc. I will probably do the same on the next contest, start early, submit some of the same photos I did on this one and add more. I know I had problems with the comments taking forever to load, don't know if it is my internet speed or what. Am I the only one that had problems with it taking time? I would have responded much more if it was quicker. Plus not everyone can sit at their computer all day long. (I'm not working anymore so I have more time). I was so thrilled that I even got a prize for the registration give away, can you imagine how many new people signed up during this?? I'm seeing a lot of negative comments about the contest in the threads . There will be other contests so just try again on the next one. Let's move on.

chasrich wrote: Thank you Crystal. Perhaps I was channeling you? Did you feel anything?

Sorry, but the only thing I have been feeling is the frustration on printing. lol

chasrich wrote: I broke out the Ninja dictionary and started to translate some of the Stealthy messages in this thread. It turned out to be total gibberish - no surprise there...

I'm thinking that this contest, because of the way the rules were worded, was a combination of who posted the best photos, who posted the most photos and who posted the most comments. Apparently all of these factors were weighted equally judging from my perspective because the top finishers seem to have been the ones that posted the most comments. I'm not saying their photo wasn't the best or their body of work wasn't the best overall I'm just saying that comments are easier to post than photos and photos are easier to post that really good quality photos.

This led to three separate contests... with three types of competitors. Some of us competed by submitting their best shots lets say the top ten. Others of us thought the best way to compete was to keep submitting photos on a daily basis. A large number of us (me included) ran in this race by doing just that. The third set of competitors were the ones that were promoting the contest excitement by keeping the thread active on a minute by minute basis.

As I stated in a previous thread. I got a lot out of this contest as I processed a large number of images to feed the contest beast. A shot or two of mine got some favorable comments that I was proud to hear. I accomplished a lot learning my new camera and advanced in that area much faster than I normally would have. I also enjoyed reading most of the comments and even was moved to comment on a lot of entries too. Then I got a prize that for me was the best thing I would use

I'm not good at making statements that might hurt someones feelings and that is not my intention here but... At times the contest thread got a little tedious with some photos being quoted over and over to maintain a conversation of sorts. I'm not faulting those top finishers for posting lots of comments as they earned their position through hours of dedicated work. I am trying to look at the "contest" from the perspective of those artists that edited through their archives and submitted their work in less than a dozen or perhaps only one or two images. I'm wondering how those people finished even though their work might have been worthy of some recognition.

The photos could have been judged on their merits and given recognition in a separate category but then we would not have accomplished the goal of increased participation in our forums. The people contributing the most original photos could also be recognized for their efforts. And finally I'd like to see the posting numbers on those few die-hard contributors that posted every hour (it seems) and kept the enthusiasm at a high level.

All three contests contributed. The prizes should be given on the basis of who contributed the most. Opinions might vary as to the weight each submission was given but there in lies the intentions of the judges. Let's not rush to tie a hangman's noose and lynch our benefactor. It was a good contest and I had fun. Let's do it again soon.

I'm returning this soapbox before I stagger and fall off!

Thoughtfully and considerately, expressed, Charles. I joyned PT 4 or 5 weeks ago, and the contest drew me in and gave the ooportunity to meet and interact= after all, why I joned, A success!

photobod wrote:

chasrich wrote: I broke out the Ninja dictionary and started to translate some of the Stealthy messages in this thread. It turned out to be total gibberish - no surprise there...

I'm thinking that this contest, because of the way the rules were worded, was a combination of who posted the best photos, who posted the most photos and who posted the most comments. Apparently all of these factors were weighted equally judging from my perspective because the top finishers seem to have been the ones that posted the most comments. I'm not saying their photo wasn't the best or their body of work wasn't the best overall I'm just saying that comments are easier to post than photos and photos are easier to post that really good quality photos.

This led to three separate contests... with three types of competitors. Some of us competed by submitting their best shots lets say the top ten. Others of us thought the best way to compete was to keep submitting photos on a daily basis. A large number of us (me included) ran in this race by doing just that. The third set of competitors were the ones that were promoting the contest excitement by keeping the thread active on a minute by minute basis.

As I stated in a previous thread. I got a lot out of this contest as I processed a large number of images to feed the contest beast. A shot or two of mine got some favorable comments that I was proud to hear. I accomplished a lot learning my new camera and advanced in that area much faster than I normally would have. I also enjoyed reading most of the comments and even was moved to comment on a lot of entries too. Then I got a prize that for me was the best thing I would use

I'm not good at making statements that might hurt someones feelings and that is not my intention here but... At times the contest thread got a little tedious with some photos being quoted over and over to maintain a conversation of sorts. I'm not faulting those top finishers for posting lots of comments as they earned their position through hours of dedicated work. I am trying to look at the "contest" from the perspective of those artists that edited through their archives and submitted their work in less than a dozen or perhaps only one or two images. I'm wondering how those people finished even though their work might have been worthy of some recognition.

The photos could have been judged on their merits and given recognition in a separate category but then we would not have accomplished the goal of increased participation in our forums. The people contributing the most original photos could also be recognized for their efforts. And finally I'd like to see the posting numbers on those few die-hard contributors that posted every hour (it seems) and kept the enthusiasm at a high level.

All three contests contributed. The prizes should be given on the basis of who contributed the most. Opinions might vary as to the weight each submission was given but there in lies the intentions of the judges. Let's not rush to tie a hangman's noose and lynch our benefactor. It was a good contest and I had fun. Let's do it again soon.

I'm returning this soapbox before I stagger and fall off!

Well said to a point Charles and that soap box was very high indeed .

I personally believe that those who interpreted the rules properly, (and its my belief that some never even read the rules first, including our good red friend Mr Ninja) and played to those rules ie: posted good quality photos and also interacted by commenting on photos were the ones that were highest placed, in other words and in my opinion it was a MIX OF BOTH not one or the other, which with all credit to Alex and the team is what they wanted, possibly not quite expecting the weight of contributions to almost collapse the whole process.

I dont want to hear anyone in this forum making out that it wasnt a truly photographic contest (as one member seemed to hint at soon after the results were announced) we have to have faith in our leader Alex and all his team who worked hard at keeping up with the problems and trying hard to solve them, even though many were not attributal to PT in any way.

It was there baby and there judging and we must all hold true to there judgement. so no
raining on this parade folks as if I hear it I will comment back in an honest and forthright way.

Every winner in this contest thoroughly deserve there prize.

Nikonjan wrote: Ok, since I started this thread I need to also comment. I only submitted 15 photos since I got in kind of midpoint of the contest and I only submit my best. I did notice there was just a lot of snap shot type photos entered and I figured it was to rack up points which is great and I would think the judges would pick the best out of their photos , comments etc. I will probably do the same on the next contest, start early, submit some of the same photos I did on this one and add more. I know I had problems with the comments taking forever to load, don't know if it is my internet speed or what. Am I the only one that had problems with it taking time? I would have responded much more if it was quicker. Plus not everyone can sit at their computer all day long. (I'm not working anymore so I have more time). I was so thrilled that I even got a prize for the registration give away, can you imagine how many new people signed up during this?? I'm seeing a lot of negative comments about the contest in the threads . There will be other contests so just try again on the next one. Let's move on.

You were not on your own with the struggles to upload many of my photographs wouldnt upload and some took several minutes, kinda frustrating but hey thats technology for you.

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

photobod wrote:

crystal wrote:

chasrich wrote:

Baydream wrote: [But in the end, you said what needed to be said. There were no "rules" or "criteria" stated for the contest so I believe you are correct in your analysis.
The winning photos may NOT be the best submitted but a combination of the photo and the responses and the responders' counts.
Good job, professor.
Need help getting up?

Thanks for the response John. I was worried that my rant/editorial might have been a thread killer. Ya think?

Not a thread killer in my eyes. You said exactly what was on my mind...you beat me to it.

He only makes out he is a gentle santa Crystal actualy he is as sharp as a razer blade

I don't think he knows what a razor blade is actually.

You see now thats what happens when you are a ninja you see things others dont
perhaps Charles hasnt seen or used a razer for many years now.

photobod wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

photobod wrote:

crystal wrote:

chasrich wrote:

Baydream wrote: [But in the end, you said what needed to be said. There were no "rules" or "criteria" stated for the contest so I believe you are correct in your analysis.
The winning photos may NOT be the best submitted but a combination of the photo and the responses and the responders' counts.
Good job, professor.
Need help getting up?

Thanks for the response John. I was worried that my rant/editorial might have been a thread killer. Ya think?

Not a thread killer in my eyes. You said exactly what was on my mind...you beat me to it.

He only makes out he is a gentle santa Crystal actualy he is as sharp as a razer blade

I don't think he knows what a razor blade is actually.

You see now thats what happens when you are a ninja you see things others dont
perhaps Charles hasnt seen or used a razer for many years now.

We don need no stinkin razor Hombre'

chasrich wrote:

photobod wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

photobod wrote:

crystal wrote:

chasrich wrote:

Baydream wrote: [But in the end, you said what needed to be said. There were no "rules" or "criteria" stated for the contest so I believe you are correct in your analysis.
The winning photos may NOT be the best submitted but a combination of the photo and the responses and the responders' counts.
Good job, professor.
Need help getting up?

Thanks for the response John. I was worried that my rant/editorial might have been a thread killer. Ya think?

Not a thread killer in my eyes. You said exactly what was on my mind...you beat me to it.

He only makes out he is a gentle santa Crystal actualy he is as sharp as a razer blade

I don't think he knows what a razor blade is actually.

You see now thats what happens when you are a ninja you see things others dont
perhaps Charles hasnt seen or used a razer for many years now.

We don need no stinkin razor Hombre'

I'm gonna start to try growing a full on Charles/Santa beard. I totally want one (I'm going gray too slowly darn it!)

An excellent idea... Let's have a "Who can look most like Santa before Christmas Contest". On your mark, Get set...

chasrich wrote: An excellent idea... Let's have a "Who can look most like Santa before Christmas Contest". On your mark, Get set...

LOL. You shouldn't participate, this is a purely amateur contest.

You can judge though.

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

chasrich wrote:

photobod wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

photobod wrote:

crystal wrote:

chasrich wrote:

Baydream wrote: [But in the end, you said what needed to be said. There were no "rules" or "criteria" stated for the contest so I believe you are correct in your analysis.
The winning photos may NOT be the best submitted but a combination of the photo and the responses and the responders' counts.
Good job, professor.
Need help getting up?

Thanks for the response John. I was worried that my rant/editorial might have been a thread killer. Ya think?

Not a thread killer in my eyes. You said exactly what was on my mind...you beat me to it.

He only makes out he is a gentle santa Crystal actualy he is as sharp as a razer blade

I don't think he knows what a razor blade is actually.

You see now thats what happens when you are a ninja you see things others dont
perhaps Charles hasnt seen or used a razer for many years now.

We don need no stinkin razor Hombre'

I'm gonna start to try growing a full on Charles/Santa beard. I totally want one (I'm going gray too slowly darn it!)

Is there such a thing as a grey Ninja Adrian ??? cant imagine, maybe you will have to descend to us mere mortals level

photobod wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

chasrich wrote:

photobod wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

photobod wrote:

crystal wrote:

chasrich wrote:

Baydream wrote: [But in the end, you said what needed to be said. There were no "rules" or "criteria" stated for the contest so I believe you are correct in your analysis.
The winning photos may NOT be the best submitted but a combination of the photo and the responses and the responders' counts.
Good job, professor.
Need help getting up?

Thanks for the response John. I was worried that my rant/editorial might have been a thread killer. Ya think?

Not a thread killer in my eyes. You said exactly what was on my mind...you beat me to it.

He only makes out he is a gentle santa Crystal actualy he is as sharp as a razer blade

I don't think he knows what a razor blade is actually.

You see now thats what happens when you are a ninja you see things others dont
perhaps Charles hasnt seen or used a razer for many years now.

We don need no stinkin razor Hombre'

I'm gonna start to try growing a full on Charles/Santa beard. I totally want one (I'm going gray too slowly darn it!)

Is there such a thing as a grey Ninja Adrian ??? cant imagine, maybe you will have to descend to us mere mortals level

Takes a lot of ninja will power, but I can do it. Gray hair is awesome dude. I want my full head of thick hair to be all white. That would be so awesome.

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

chasrich wrote:

photobod wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

photobod wrote:

crystal wrote:

chasrich wrote:

Baydream wrote: [But in the end, you said what needed to be said. There were no "rules" or "criteria" stated for the contest so I believe you are correct in your analysis.
The winning photos may NOT be the best submitted but a combination of the photo and the responses and the responders' counts.
Good job, professor.
Need help getting up?

Thanks for the response John. I was worried that my rant/editorial might have been a thread killer. Ya think?

Not a thread killer in my eyes. You said exactly what was on my mind...you beat me to it.

He only makes out he is a gentle santa Crystal actualy he is as sharp as a razer blade

I don't think he knows what a razor blade is actually.

You see now thats what happens when you are a ninja you see things others dont
perhaps Charles hasnt seen or used a razer for many years now.

We don need no stinkin razor Hombre'

I'm gonna start to try growing a full on Charles/Santa beard. I totally want one (I'm going gray too slowly darn it!)

Want grey hair ? - have kids. Sure fire method.

Baydream wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

chasrich wrote:

photobod wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

photobod wrote:

crystal wrote:

chasrich wrote:

Baydream wrote: [But in the end, you said what needed to be said. There were no "rules" or "criteria" stated for the contest so I believe you are correct in your analysis.
The winning photos may NOT be the best submitted but a combination of the photo and the responses and the responders' counts.
Good job, professor.
Need help getting up?

Thanks for the response John. I was worried that my rant/editorial might have been a thread killer. Ya think?

Not a thread killer in my eyes. You said exactly what was on my mind...you beat me to it.

He only makes out he is a gentle santa Crystal actualy he is as sharp as a razer blade

I don't think he knows what a razor blade is actually.

You see now thats what happens when you are a ninja you see things others dont
perhaps Charles hasnt seen or used a razer for many years now.

We don need no stinkin razor Hombre'

I'm gonna start to try growing a full on Charles/Santa beard. I totally want one (I'm going gray too slowly darn it!)

Want grey hair ? - have kids. Sure fire method.

Having Kids makes you go bald I have the evidence or could that be due to 3 wives Hmmm

photobod wrote:

Baydream wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

chasrich wrote:

photobod wrote:

Stealthy Ninja wrote:

photobod wrote:

crystal wrote:

chasrich wrote:

Baydream wrote: [But in the end, you said what needed to be said. There were no "rules" or "criteria" stated for the contest so I believe you are correct in your analysis.
The winning photos may NOT be the best submitted but a combination of the photo and the responses and the responders' counts.
Good job, professor.
Need help getting up?

Thanks for the response John. I was worried that my rant/editorial might have been a thread killer. Ya think?

Not a thread killer in my eyes. You said exactly what was on my mind...you beat me to it.

He only makes out he is a gentle santa Crystal actualy he is as sharp as a razer blade

I don't think he knows what a razor blade is actually.

You see now thats what happens when you are a ninja you see things others dont
perhaps Charles hasnt seen or used a razer for many years now.

We don need no stinkin razor Hombre'

I'm gonna start to try growing a full on Charles/Santa beard. I totally want one (I'm going gray too slowly darn it!)

Want grey hair ? - have kids. Sure fire method.

Having Kids makes you go bald I have the evidence or could that be due to 3 wives Hmmm

Kids = grey hair
Multiple wives = bald

I wife (44 years), 2 kids, one grand daughter, and one great grandson. Now THAT will grey you.